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Based on Malachi 3:16-18 I believe the Lord will harken to us as we consider his word together.

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The Momentousness of Jesus Christ #1   Topics/belief

Started 11/8/21 by PAULFROMNYS; 65 views.
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11/8/21

   

That is where we begin with Job, but what comes out later?

As to goodness, we have to look more intently, and we find that it was an outward and legal goodness, not inward and spiritual. His knowledge of God was more an objective knowledge. There was no question for him as to the reality of the existence of God, but to him God was something outward, someone up in His heaven while he was on this earth. He had just heard about God, and he adjusted his life according to the light he had, but it was all outward. Job's righteousness was based upon his works. He argued with his friends about that. When they said to him that his sin was the cause of his suffering, he gave a whole catalogue of all his good works. So his righteousness was rather of works than of faith.

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11/8/21

   

Thus we see in Job fulness, outward goodness and self-satisfaction.

The Transition

Now let us turn to the beginning of Job's transition:

"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job? for there is none like him in the earth."

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But Satan challenges God, and says:

"Doth Job fear God for nought? Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath, on every side?" In effect, Satan is saying that Job does it because it is for his own benefit. It is easy to be good when you are protected from suffering! "But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will renounce thee to thy face."

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God accepts Satan's challenge and gives him permission to touch Job, except that he may not touch his life. And Satan goes, and does his work. All Job's outward wealth falls under Satan's power: his home, his children, his herds, everything is destroyed. Then Job is touched in his body, and finally his wife and his friends turn against him. And at last he suffers from the stroke of Satan. (We will touch that later.)

Gathering all these difficulties and needs of Job together, we have the spectacle of a man whose life had been very full on this earth. He had had friends, earthly means, a home, a family, a standing amongst men, influence, and a sphere of usefulness. He was not a bad man. But now he is broken and utterly emptied, until he reaches the very bottom of himself. He is emptied of all he possessed, he is broken in spirit, broken in soul, broken in body, and brought down to the very bottom - and at the bottom he meets God on a basis of pure grace. He has learned the lesson of his own nothingness. It often takes a tremendous amount to bring people to that place of recognising their nothingness! Job's knowledge of God had not been an inward knowledge, a knowing Him in his own heart, but something from the outside, and therefore, as there was no true knowledge of God, there was a corresponding ignorance of his own heart. This is always so! So Job did not, at the beginning, know his own heart.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/8/21

It seems that Job understood that there was something hidden in God's heart, but he had no idea what it was. This indicates that Job could not find the reason for God's treatment of him, but there had to be a some reason hidden in God's heart.

Job 10:13 But You have hidden these things in Your heart; / I know that this is with You:

Among Christians, to whom has "the mystery which throughout the ages has been hidden in God, who created all things" been revealed? This is the question of our time. 

Ephesians 3:9 And to enlighten all that they may see what the economy of the mystery is, which throughout the ages has been hidden in God, who created all things,

Without Paul's epistles, we have no way to answer Job's question. This dispensing (dispensation) of God into us as the Spirit to be our life and life supply to build up the Body of Christ as God's testimony is the mystery hidden throughout the ages. He is building His church by building Himself into us and building us together as the union, the mingling, and the incorporation of God and man for eternity. This corporate person is a city, a building, consisting of gold (the Father's divine nature) pearl (Christ's death and life secreting resurrection and the gates, the entry, and precious stones (the Spirits transforming work as the foundation. This marvelous structure of treasure will glorify God for eternity. Praise the Lord!!!! I want to cooperate with this building work!

Revelation 21:10-11 And he carried me away in spirit onto a great and high mountain and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God. Her light was like a most precious stone, like a jasper stone, as clear as crystal.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

11/8/21

   Nice Fred, awesomingly stated.  Much love brother.

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