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Based on Malachi 3:16-18 I believe the Lord will harken to us as we consider his word together.

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Started 11/11/21 by PAULFROMNYS; 107 views.
PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

11/12/21

Fred said:   God is not reforming the harlot, He is preparing the bride.

    Amen, the harlot of herself is simply an instrument used of GOD to accomplish His end.  We are warned about judging those not given to our Lord(((outside))), but rather to beseech them to be reconciled to GOD as Stephen did Paul when he was stoned to death.  An aroma of life and death is what scripture says we are as Christ finds expression in and through us. 

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/12/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

We are warned about judging those not given to our Lord(((outside))),

I should probably clarify that I believe God has genuine believers in both Catholicism and Protestantism, such as Madam Guyon and Brother Lawrence. They genuinely knew the Lord. We are not talking about the people but the religious system. If I am not mistaken, this is a big part of brother Torben's message, that the religious system is what keeps God's people from realizing who and what they are in Christ. The clergy/laity system nullifies the Body of Christ. God hates this.

Revelation 2:6 But this you have, that you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

The word Nicolaitans means to rule over the laity.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/12/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

   Good, that saves me from expounding.  :)

I think you should expound. According to John 12:24 Jesus came to be sown into the ground like a grain of wheat. This is something of life, not religion.

In Acts, people were "added to the Lord", not "joined a church". What does it mean to be added to the Lord?

Acts 5:14 And believers were all the more being added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women,

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

11/13/21

you said:   If I am not mistaken, this is a big part of brother Torben's message

   You are 100% not mistaken.  

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

11/13/21

   you asked:    What does it mean to be added to the Lord? 

   OK, I'll expound if you will :)  Just that our Lord is head over a body, which from 0 AD to the present is growing.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/13/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

Just that our Lord is head over a body, which from 0 AD to the present is growing.

Amen Paul. Excellent. The Body you describe is universal, transcending space and time. Ephesians 1 says "the church which is His Body". So these terms are synonymous. The church Jesus is building in Matthew 16 is universal. The church in Matthew 18, "tell it to the church", is local. The local church are the believers in a certain place at a certain time. 

When people are baptized, they are not baptized into a denomination, or added to a "membership" they are baptized into God (if they have received the Spirit). They are literally added to God. This is marvelous.

Matthew 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Matthew 18:17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to hear the church also, let him be to you just like the Gentile and the tax collector.

The Body is not simply universal, but practical and local. We are in the same church brother, we are just divided by space, nothing else. In the last of these days, this is being fully recovered.

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

11/13/21

   You said:   They are literally added to God. This is marvelous.

    Or perhaps GOD is taking them back in.

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