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Based on Malachi 3:16-18 I believe the Lord will harken to us as we consider his word together.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

11/11/21

   Also, I've experienced very interesting intersections with TLR, and TAS.  Many time the understanding expressed through TAS goes right with what I'm seeing in TLR.

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From: PAULFROMNYS

11/11/21

  also   :)   We(((the corporate))) need universal expressions of truth as from GOD to open our lives to, as the scriptures in themselves are appealed to in every fragment of believers.  This to me is the importance of a living now 5 fold ministry from our head, through the highest places of the church down into every single member.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/12/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

.  What I see thus far tells me of a powerful conversion experience being the hallmark of TLR with strong realization of things I have battled through for decades. 

No one can argue with results. Powerful conversions must become the norm. 

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/12/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

 Also, I've experienced very interesting intersections with TLR, and TAS.  Many time the understanding expressed through TAS goes right with what I'm seeing in TLR.

Well I agree. They represent a sizable segment of believers who have seen something of the degradation of the Christian religion, and attempt to participate in some kind of restoration. Spark's vision was to minister to Christians in general both at his ministry center at Honor Oak in England, as well as ministry centers in major cities around the world. I don't know that he ever accomplished his vision, but today is very popular with the "house church" movement and other free groups. I have been familiar with TA Sparks and his ministry for many years.

I have not yet heard enough to get a feel for brother Torben's vision. I have never heard of him before you started posting videos. He says many things which I am very familiar with, for example, the book of Acts having no conclusion and that we are the continuation of the book of Acts. This is in our study of Acts. I would be interested to learn what he is laboring toward. What does he see as the result of his ministry. 

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/12/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

We(((the corporate))) need universal expressions of truth as from GOD to open our lives to, as the scriptures in themselves are appealed to in every fragment of believers. 

It seems to me that among the true, regenerated children of God, there are at least three kinds.

1. Those who are in any given denomination or non-denomination or free group and are happy there, totally content. I know many like this.

2. Those who have seen the error and evil of Babylon and her daughters and have come out but are unsure or unwilling to enter into what God is doing today. I also know some like this.

3. Those who have entered into God's recovery by life to participate in the building up of the Body of Christ by being gathered into one in local churches to keep the oneness of the Spirit until we all arrive at the oneness of the faith. This will end the age, prepare the bride, bring in the kingdom, and consummate in the New Jerusalem. This is our vision.

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

11/13/21

   You asked:  What does he see as the result of his ministry. 

    Not sure how to answer that, but I'll try. I see him as establishing a subjective reality with GOD as the Alpha and Omega of all that we are in Christ.  This as opposed to the overwhelming demands of objective approaches to our faith.

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

11/13/21

   Amen, TAS made to major distinctions among genuine believers = those who are saved as the foundation of their reality with GOD, and those who are going on to fullness.

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/13/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

Not sure how to answer that,

I believe that this is a very important question if we are going to follow someone. According to Paul, he labored with a vision.

Acts 26:18 Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision,

Fred (fnorthrup)

From: Fred (fnorthrup)

11/13/21

PAULFROMNYS said:

those who are going on to fullness.

According to Ephesians 1:22-23 the fulness is the Body and the Body is the church. Christ is the Head over all things to the church. He is the one who fills, and we have to know how to partake of Him to the point we are full of the experience and enjoyment of Christ. This will issue in the Body which is the fullness of the One who fills. This is my faith.

Ephesians 1:22-23 And He subjected all things under His feet and gave Him to be Head over all things to the church, Which is His Body, the fullness of the One who fills all in all.

PAULFROMNYS

From: PAULFROMNYS

11/13/21

   To me, Paul, Torbin and others have gone deeply into the fullness of what GOD has done in His Son. Many find rest somewhere along the way, but as Jesus fore ran all that GOD has for us, some go further down that path, and thereby can be used to encourage others onward.  GOD knows, and does perfectly in this as He does in all things.  To be aware of such things, and seeking the discernment of them and our place in it is pleasing to our Father IMO.

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