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From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-19 1:14 PM 
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Los Angeles Times
A future in which cancers are cured, heart disease prevented and devastating brain disorders reversed may just have gotten a bit more distant, leaders of the nation's leading biomedical research organizations said Thursday.
 

 
From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-19 1:17 PM 
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Health groups: Next cure may go undiscovered with Trump cuts

Washington Post - ‎Mar 17, 2017‎
WASHINGTON — What goes on the chopping block: Research into cancer or Alzheimer’s? A Zika vaccine or a treatment for superbugs? Health groups say President Donald Trump’s proposal to slash funds for the nation’s engine of biomedical research would be devastating for patients with all kinds of diseases — and for jobs. “It is possible that the next cure for some cancer is sitting there waiting to be discovered, and it won’t get to the table,” said Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association. In his budget blueprint Thursday, Trump called for cutting $5.8 billion from the National Institutes of Health. That’s a staggering 18 percent drop for the $32 billion agency that funds much of the nation’s research into what causes different diseases and what it will take to treat them. It comes despite Trump recently telling Congress about the need to find “cures to the illnesses that have always plagued us.” “All of us woke up this morning in a state of shock about this number,” said Dr. Blase Polite, a cancer specialist at the University of Chicago who chairs the American Society for Clinical Oncology’s government relations committee. Trump’s proposal would roll back NIH’s 2018 budget to about what it was in 2003.
 

 
From: Hummingbird (GAHummer) DelphiPlus Member IconMar-19 1:30 PM 
To: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (3 of 15) 
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Glen,

I just read a similar article in the NYT which I subscribe to.  Other cuts will slash foreign aid which will cause more children to die of malnutrition, not only Americans.  The research here helps people all over the world.  What is wrong with this clown?

Hummie

  • Edited March 19, 2017 1:31 pm  by  Hummingbird (GAHummer)
 

 
From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-19 2:11 PM 
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Huffington Post  - ‎Mar 17, 2017

Over the course of the last three years, a bipartisan group of lawmakers made painstaking attempts to pass a major restructuring of biomedical research in America. Known as the 21st Century Cures Act, the bill streamlined regulatory policy at the Food and Drug Administration. It also called for billions more to be spent on key functions at the National Institutes of Health, such as combating the opioid epidemic and undertaking then-Vice President Joe Biden’s cancer moonshot. When the bill ultimately passed in December, it was hailed as a triumph ? not just because it was the biggest piece of legislation to make it through Congress, but because it had been done the right way, with hearings, negotiations, no rancor and plenty of bipartisanship. And yet, advocates were worried. To get the bill over the finish line, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) had made critical changes. The $4.8 billion devoted to the NIH over 10 years would no longer be mandatory spending. While the fees and cuts to pay for the NIH funding would remain automatic ? and set aside with express written language that that fund be used for 21st Century Cures priorities ? lawmakers would have to vote each year to spend it. One top biomedical research advocate told The Huffington Post in that moment that he feared Congress would fund the NIH at a lower level in the coming year precisely because they knew that the 21st Century Funds were there, waiting to be used. And on Thursday, those fears were realized as President Donald Trump unveiled a budget that included a $5.8 billion reduction in NIH funding.

 

 
From: Dragoness (1Dragones) DelphiPlus Member IconMar-23 3:15 PM 
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" What is wrong with this clown? "
Well, as you said, he's a clown. 

However, think for a moment.  Realistically I think what he's trying to do may be for the ultimate good.  If the United States is ever going to be debt free, something has got to go. America cannot continue to spend more than is taken in... and, for awhile at least, we may have to spend quite a bit less than is taken in so that some of the debt can be repaid. What would you put on the chopping block?  How about we slash all the salaries of every member of congress in half?  Not enough, I know, but the money could be could be used to better purpose than lining the pockets of those already far too wealthy.
 

 
From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-24 1:14 AM 
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Obviously, spending more than one has eventually is unsustainable, although sometimes investment saves money (treatment and cures may reduce future spending).    It's all about what to cut - and while it's simplistic, Trump's budget basically suggests a vast military buildup funded by cuts in health care, enviornmental concerns and assistance to those in need.  If one thinks a bigger army and more bombs are the best priority, he's right.   I don't think most people agree with that priority list.

 

 
From: Hummingbird (GAHummer) DelphiPlus Member IconMar-24 12:22 PM 
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." What would you put on the chopping block?"

The WALL.  Congress salaries is a great idea too.

Hummie

 

 
From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-24 1:12 PM 
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Hummingbird (GAHummer) said...

Congress salaries is a great idea too.

The Constitution prohibits changes in salary during a current term.

 

 
From: Dragoness (1Dragones) DelphiPlus Member IconMar-25 2:48 PM 
To: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (9 of 15) 
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True, but they could change the salaries of future senators and representatives.  Yep, I know it would take time and might (probably would be) unpopular.
 

 
From: Dragoness (1Dragones) DelphiPlus Member IconMar-25 2:52 PM 
To: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (10 of 15) 
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I don't disagree with the investing in research.  I do disagree with the military build-up, and don't, in fact see any need for it.  I do think he's trying the right thing (cutting spending in some areas) in a wrong way - as in cutting the wrong things... 
 

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