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The Balance of Nature   Parks, Forests & Public Lands

Started Mar-4 by Cstar1; 186 views.
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Bike (URALTOURIST1)

From: Bike (URALTOURIST1)

Mar-10

Interesting and thought provoking counter argument with good source material:

https://patriotpost.us/commentary/36587-wolves-dont-change-rivers

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From: Cstar1

Mar-10

I get that this guy disagrees with the premise that the reintroduction of wolves was not as far reaching as the video claims. 

But I don't get his whole white racism vs. wilderness argument.

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Bike (URALTOURIST1)

From: Bike (URALTOURIST1)

Mar-10

"Wilderness" is what he objected to, it is an oh so pure viewpoint that he has issues with.  True wilderness implies and actually is NO interaction with anything not OF the wilderness, a thing that does not exist, ANYWHERE. 

The main thing he points out is that ALL members of the environment contribute to the end result, the wolves are actually a minor part of the Yellowstone and similar forest and backcountry environments.  Sans wolves, deer and elk can proliferate, browsing and killing aspens and willows in riverine environments resulting in sharp defiles for creeks and rivers.  Wolves in and of themselves cannot and will not restore a riverbank to a meandering waterway though lush reeds, aspen and willow growth, the damage was done and has to take a VERY long times to self repair.

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From: Cstar1

Mar-18

BWArtist

From: BWArtist

Apr-4

Wild er and a nest.

It is human's view of romance that motivated Yellowstone to be protected from development in the first place. A rationalization of man compromising his territorial needs in what eventually is called a shrinking wilderness.

All the critters in question are basically in an exclusive semi natural feedlot reserve. Meadows and such are not over run into muck when the buffalo are allowed to have plenty of room to roam. So Yellowstone is wilder. But still confined to a small nest.

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