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From:  Hilmar3  16/05/2004 16:39 
to: autogun  21 of 26 
 1137.21 in reply to 1137.18 
You can see the ammo-mix of german guns in "Flugzeugbewaffnung" by Schliephake (1977) from 7.92 up to 50mm (pages 199/200).
I will try to translate it (the big guns only - some comments by myself):

MK103 fighters
1 30mm HE(M)-T sd
1 30mm I (I(M)? by myself)

MK103 ground-attack
3 30mm HE(M)
1 30mm APHE-T

or MK103 ground-attack
3 30mm HE
1 30mm APHE-T

MK103 against ships
30mm API

MK103 anti-tank
30mm APCR-T

MK103 against armored aircrafts (IL-2)
1 30mm HE(M)-T sd
1 30mm AP (API? by myself)

MK108 fighters
1 30mm HE(M)
1 30mm I(M)

or MK108 fighters
30mm HE(M) (HEI(M)? tracer? by myself)

MK108 Schrägbewaffnung (upwards)
30mm HE(M)-T(gl)

BK3.7 ground attack
2 37mm HE-T sd
1 37mm HE(M)-T sd (? by myself)
1 37mm HEI-T sd

BK3.7 anti-tank
37mm APCR-T

BK5 air fighting
50mm HE(M)-T(gl) sd

BK5 ground attack
1 50mm HE
1 50mm APHE-T

on page 175:
BK7.5
APE-T

Edited 16/05/2004 16:44 ET ET by Hilmar3


Edited 17/05/2004 01:36 ET ET by Hilmar3
 
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From:  Do335  17/05/2004 13:08 
to: Hilmar3  22 of 26 
 1137.22 in reply to 1137.21 
Thanks.

If I only could get Flugzeugbewaffnung but at the known antiquebook searchengiens I didn't get any hits...

 
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From:  matthias74  17/05/2004 18:46 
to: Hilmar3  23 of 26 
 1137.23 in reply to 1137.21 
I am reading "HS 129 Panzerjaeger" by Pegg. According to this book, HS 129 carried AP ammo exclusively when on AT missions, no HE/AP mix.

There is also mention of cases where AC flew against non-armorde targets (e.g. boats), where only HE ammo was used.

Tinku

 
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From:  autogun  18/05/2004 01:07 
to: matthias74  24 of 26 
 1137.24 in reply to 1137.23 
I think that is consistent with Hilmar's information. The standard AP ammo for the BK 3,7 was the tungsten-cored Hartkernmunition.

Tony Williams
Military gun and ammunition website:
http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk
 
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From:  Davideverest  18/05/2004 14:30 
to: Do335  25 of 26 
 1137.25 in reply to 1137.22 
Try http://www.abebooks.co.uk/ which gives 5 hits on Flugzeugbewaffnung
Dave
 
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From:  Do335  18/05/2004 15:21 
to: Davideverest  26 of 26 
 1137.26 in reply to 1137.25 
That's is a other book. I'm searching "Flugzeugbewaffnung" written by "Hanfried Schliephake" not "E-Stellen Travemunde und Tarnewitz, Band 2: Die Geschichte der Seeflugzeug- Erproburgsstelle Travemunde und der Daraus Hervorgegangenen E-Stelle Fur Flugzeugbewaffnung in Tarnewitz". That should be a book about the provingareal for seeplanes and aircraftweapons in Tarnewitz and Travemünde.
 
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