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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  3/4/2005 1:01 pm 
To: ALL  (1 of 19) 
 494.1 
did someone try to weave on a discontinuous warp?
 
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From:  MarinaHOST  3/4/2005 8:51 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (2 of 19) 
 494.2 in reply to 494.1 

I'm not sure what you mean by "discontinuous warp" as I've never heard that term in all my years of weaving. Could you explain a little more?

Marina

 
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From:  Aase  3/5/2005 11:45 am 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (3 of 19) 
 494.3 in reply to 494.1 

Sounds like some of the experimental weaving done in the 1970s. My mother played with discontinuous warps and wefts -- made a loom out of a bit of plywood with nails at top and bottom and temporary nails where needed in the middle of the board to anchor / loop shortened warps around. When you start a new / second "patch" of warp on those nails be sure to put the new warp through the loop of the old warp so everything hangs together as one piece of cloth. If you just go around the nail, you'll get patches held together by only the weft they might have in common. Pull the nails out as you go, once they've served their purpose, or you'll risk scratched fingers. She often used a blunt-nosed darning needle, but these were small pieces, samples for an art class. This was as much like darning as like a combination of weaving and tapestry.

I don't know that this would made good, sound, useful cloth, but could make a wall hanging. If you're interested in color changes in the warp, warp painting should work.

Aase

 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  3/5/2005 7:52 pm 
To: MarinaHOST  (4 of 19) 
 494.4 in reply to 494.2 
it's an old Peruvian technique. I found traces in the book "textiles of ancient Peru and their techniques" by Raoul d'Harcourt and I would like to figure out how to obtain it.
 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  3/5/2005 7:53 pm 
To: Aase  (5 of 19) 
 494.5 in reply to 494.3 
thank you. I'll try to well understand your explanation and keep you posted
 
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From:  MarinaHOST  3/5/2005 8:14 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (6 of 19) 
 494.6 in reply to 494.4 

Lidia, I did a search at www.amazon.com and found the book availabe. New, $16.98, Used, from 12.93.

Marina

 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  3/6/2005 7:06 am 
To: MarinaHOST  (7 of 19) 
 494.7 in reply to 494.6 
you are so very nice. perhaps I didn't express myself well (English is not my language). I do have the book and there are pictures of webs but the explanations is not thorough enough for my poor weaving knowledge
I'll try to follow Aasa advice and let you know
lidia
 
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From:  fluffyewe  3/10/2005 12:15 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (8 of 19) 
 494.8 in reply to 494.7 

I have a friend in Magdalena, NM who has done some things like this. She has a weaving school. When she wants a piece of equiptment, she tells her husband and he builds it for her. She is about 200 miles from me.

I am not sure what other languages she speaks, but can find out for you.

I saw some things on her walls that were truely amazing to me. 3-D weavings, discontinuous weavings, off loom weavings, other things. I was wishing we lived closer together so I could learn how to do some of those things.

 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  3/11/2005 3:42 am 
To: fluffyewe  (9 of 19) 
 494.9 in reply to 494.8 
I wish too!
I would really appreciate having some more information if she is willing to share. English is fine for me
thank you very much
lidia
 
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From:  fluffyewe  3/11/2005 7:06 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (10 of 19) 
 494.10 in reply to 494.9 
email to ewe2lamb@yahoo.com and I will get your address to Kat and see if she can help you learn this part of weaving.
 
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From:  isaaraya  4/30/2005 5:16 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (11 of 19) 
 494.11 in reply to 494.1 

you will find a good description to your question at this address
www.textilemuseum.ca. As I was looking for something similar, I could not understand the difference of complementary warp and supplementary warp. Now, more or less I got it

good luck
isa

 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  5/18/2005 5:35 am 
To: isaaraya  (12 of 19) 
 494.12 in reply to 494.11 
thank you so much isa
I can answer just today because I had a minor surgery and just come back to activity now
I am trying to figure out this puzzling dicontinuous warp but can't come to a solution
what kind of loom could be used?
it's not that I really need to know how to do this, but it's hard to accept I do not come to a solution!
lidia
 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  5/18/2005 5:38 am 
To: fluffyewe unread  (13 of 19) 
 494.13 in reply to 494.10 
this is just to inform you that I never had an answer from your friend, of course she is not due to do so
thank you for your help
lidia
 
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From:  CactusPatchLamb (cactuspatchl)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 5/18/2005 12:09 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (14 of 19) 
 494.14 in reply to 494.13 
sorry, her computer has been down for a bit.
 
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From:  isaaraya  5/18/2005 6:25 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (15 of 19) 
 494.15 in reply to 494.12 

I really do not know anything about discontinous warp or why is it used.

I read in some ancient Peruvian/Guatemalan weaving when the textile is warp faced then you would have two colors of warp along your weaving. A warp for a weaving can be dressed on any kind of loom even on a backstrap loom. I really do not know how would you loop the end of one warp to the new one, I guess it can be figured out but I really never did it. I am reading several books about ancient Centroamerican weavings, if I find something explanatory I will let you know.
isabella

 
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From:  CactusPatchLamb (cactuspatchl)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 6/2/2005 6:41 pm 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (16 of 19) 
 494.16 in reply to 494.14 

Lida, my favorite instructor is out of the country at the moment and the other one had a near fatal heartattack.

Sorry I cannot forward your info to either of them. Will when I can

 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  6/3/2005 9:01 am 
To: CactusPatchLamb (cactuspatchl)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (17 of 19) 
 494.17 in reply to 494.16 
thank you for worrying. Keep me posted
lidia
 
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From:  ZeArtiste  9/12/2005 9:26 am 
To: weweave (LidiaG1)  (18 of 19) 
 494.18 in reply to 494.12 
Discontinious warp/weft was how the Peruvians wove most of their intricate figure and animal forms. It is like tapestry inlay of color. The techniques are the same. Look at some tapestry how-to's and it might make more sense. Good luck.
 
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From:  weweave (LidiaG1)  9/12/2005 12:44 pm 
To: ZeArtiste unread  (19 of 19) 
 494.19 in reply to 494.18 
thank you
 
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