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From:	Ewing2001	12/10/2001 9:40 pm
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545.1

Pt.1
American Airlines Flight 11, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center with 92 people on board
88 people are in this list, 4 i missed. No other arab or muslim sound passenger in this list. Same to the other lists. None other arabic sounding name, the lists are not complete, but had been compiled by Associated Press. I put all lists in alphabetical order.

Albert Dominguez, 66, was a baggage handler for Qantas Airways in Sydney, Australia. He was traveling on holiday at the time of his death. He was married with four children.
Alex Filipov, 70, was an electrical engineer from Concord, Massachusetts.
Andrew Curry Green was from Chelmsford, Massachusetts.
Anna Williams Allison, 48, of Stoneham, Massachusetts, was the founder of A2 Software Solutions, a firm that assists companies in software development. Allison had more than 19 years' experience in the software development industry and was a frequent speaker and trainer at national and local conferences.
Antonio Montoya
Barbara Arestegui, 38, was a flight attendant from Marstons Mills, Massachusetts.
Barbara Keating, 72, was from Palm Springs, California.
Berry Berenson, 53, of Los Angeles, California, was an actress and photographer. She was the widow of actor Anthony Perkins, who died in 1992, and sister of actress and model Marisa Berenson. She is survived by two sons, Osgood, an actor, and Elvis. Born into an aristocratic family, Berenson appeared in the movies "Cat People" (1982), "Winter Kills" (1979) and "Remember My Name" (1978).
Betty Ong, 45, was a flight attendant from Andover, Massachusetts.
Brian Dale, 43, of Warren, New Jersey, was an accountant and attorney with Blue Capital Management. He was married and the father of three.
Candace Lee Williams, 20, was a student from Danbury, Connecticut.
Carlos Montoya
Carol Bouchard, 43, of Warwick, Rhode Island, was a Kent County Hospital emergency room secretary.
Carol Flyzik, 40, was from Plaistow, New Hampshire.
Carolyn Beug, 48, of Los Angeles, California, was traveling with her mother, Mary Wahlstrom. They had gone to Boston to drop off relatives at a nearby college and were returning home.
Charles Jones, 48, was a computer programmer from Bedford, Massachusetts.
Chris Mello, 25, was a financial analyst with Alta Communications from Boston. He graduated from Princeton University with a degree in psychology. He is survived by his parents, Douglas and Ellen Mello of Rye, New York; a brother, John Douglas Mello of New York City; and his paternal grandmother, Alice Mello, of Barefoot Bay, Florida.
Christine Barbuto, 32, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California on a buying trip. Barbuto is survived her father and two sisters. She had worked for TJX for five years.
Christopher Zarba, 47, of Hopkinton, Massachusetts, was a software engineer at Concord Communications. He leaves behind a wife and family. He would have been 48 on September 15.
Cora Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts, was with Sudbury Food Pantry, an interdenominational program that assisted needy families, at Our Lady of Fatima Church.
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, was the co-founder and chief technology officer at Akamai Technologies Inc., a Cambridge, Massachusetts, company that produces technology equipment to facilitate online content delivery. He is survived by his wife and two sons. He founded Akamai in 1998 with scientist Tom Leighton and a group of Massachusetts Institute of Technology scientists and business professionals. Lewin was responsible for the company's research and development strategy.
Daniel John Lee, 34, was from Los Angeles, California.
David Angell, 54, of Pasadena, California, was the creator and executive producer of the hit NBC sitcom "Frasier." A native of West Barrington, Rhode Island, Angell entered the Army after graduating from college and served at the Pentagon until 1972. He worked in insurance and engineering before selling a script for a TV series in 1977. In 1983, he joined the TV series "Cheers" as a staff writer and began working with co-supervising producers Peter Casey and David Lee. This team formed a production company, creating and producing "Wings" in 1990 and "Frasier" in 1993. The trio won 24 Emmys.
David DiMeglio was from Wakefield, Massachusetts.
David Kovalcin, 42, of Hudson, New Hampshire, was a Raytheon Co. senior mechanical engineer for electronic systems in Tewksbury, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for 15 years.
David Retik was from Needham, Massachusetts. He was a general partner and founding member of Alta Communications, a Boston-based investment firm specializing in communication industries. Retik graduated from Colgate University and received a master's in accounting from New York University. He is survived by his wife, Susan and their two children, Ben and Molly.
Dianne Snyder, 42, was a flight attendant from Westport, Massachusetts.
Donald Ditullio, 49, was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Douglas Stone, 54, was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Edmund Glazer, 41, of Los Angeles, California, was the chief financial officer and vice president of finance and administration of MRV Communications, a Chatsworth, California, firm that focuses on optical components and network infrastructure systems. Glazer was survived by his wife, Candy, and son, Nathan.
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, was Flight 11's co-pilot. He is survived by his wife, Cheryl, and a 14-year-old son and 16-year-old daughter. He was active in Bethany Church in Greenland, New Hampshire, friends and neighbors told The Boston Globe. Rick DeKoven, a church administrator, described him as "a devoted family man."
Heather Smith, 30, of Beacon Capital Partners was from Boston.
Jacqueline Norton, 60, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. She was traveling with her husband, Robert Norton.
James Trentini, 65, was a retired teacher and assistant principal from Everett, Massachusetts.
Jane Orth, 49, of Haverhill, Massachusetts, was retired from Lucent Technology.
Jean Roger, 24, was a flight attendant from Longmeadow, Massachusetts.
Jeff Mladenik, 43, of Hinsdale, Illinois, was the interim president at E-Logic.
Jeffrey Collman was a flight attendant.
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, of Abington, Massachusetts, was a security analyst for Compaq Computer. He is survived by his wife, Christie, and three children, Meagan, 10; Julia, 7; and Matt, 12.
Jessica Sachs, 22, of Billerica, Massachusetts was an accountant with PricewaterhouseCoopers.
John Hofer
John Jenkins
John Ogonowski, 52, of Dracut, Massachusetts, was the pilot of Flight 11. He lived on a 150-acre farm north of Boston. He is survived by his wife, Margaret, and three daughters, Laura, 16; Caroline, 14; and Mary, 11. A lifelong aviation buff, he joined the Air Force after graduating from college and flew planes at the close of the Vietnam War. He joined American Airlines in 1979.

Edited 12/10/2001 9:48:46 PM ET by EWING2001

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545.2 in reply to 545.1

Pt. 2 AA11

John Wenckus, 46, was a tax consultant from Torrance, California.
Jude Larson, 31, was from Los Angeles, California.
Judy Larocque, 50, of Framingham, Massachusetts, was the founder and CEO of Market Perspectives, a research firm that offers online and on-site surveys. Before founding the company in 1993, she was the principal of Emergent Marketing, an executive marketing consulting firm.
Karen Martin was a flight attendant.
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a senior investment analyst for John Hancock.

Kathleen Nicosia was a flight attendant.
Kenneth Waldie, 46, of Methuen, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. senior quality control engineer for electronic systems in Tewksbury, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for 17 years.
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, was the Qantas Airways area sales manager in Boston. She lived in Framingham, Massachusetts, with her husband. She was traveling on company business at the time of her death.
Laurie Neira
Linda George, 27, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California on a buying trip. George is survived by her father, mother, sister and brother. She was engaged to be married.
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, of Needham, Massachusetts, was an assistant vice president, merchandise manager, for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California on a buying trip. Gordenstein is survived by her husband and two children.
Lynn Angell, 45, of Pasadena, California, was the wife of "Frasier" creator and executive producer David Angell. The Angells were returning from a wedding on the East Coast to attend the Emmy Awards.
Madeline Sweeney, 35, was a flight attendant from Acton, Massachusetts.

Mary Trentini, 67, was a retired secretary from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Wahlstrom, 75, of Kaysville, Utah, was traveling with her daughter, Carolyn Beug. They had gone to Boston to drop off relatives at a nearby college and were returning home.
Michael Theodoridis, 32, was a consultant from Boston.
Mildred Naiman was from Andover, Massachusetts.
Myra Aronson, 52, of Charlestown, Massachusetts, was a press and analyst relations manager for Compuware Corp.
N. Janis Lasden, 46, of General Electric was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Natalie Larson was from Los Angeles, California.

Neilie Casey, 32, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She worked for TJX for eight years. Casey is survived by her husband and a 7-month-old daughter.
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts, was the owner of Brae Burn Management.
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, was a spiritual adviser from Newton, Massachusetts.
Patrick Currivan
Paul Friedman, 45, from Belmont, Massachusetts, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting.
Peter Gay, 54, of Tewksbury, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. vice president of operations for electronic systems based in Andover, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for more than 28 years.
Peter Hashem, 40, was an engineer from Tewksbury, Massachusetts.
Philip Rosenzweig of Acton, Massachusetts, was an executive with Sun Microsystems.
Rahma Salie, 28, was from Boston.
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island, was a customer service agent with American Airlines.
Richard Ross, 58, of Newton, Massachusetts, headed his own management consulting company, the Ross Group.
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts was a sales engineer with Netstal.
Robert Norton, 82, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. He was traveling with his wife, Jacqueline Norton.
Robin Caplin was from Natick, Massachusetts.
Robin Kaplan, 33, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a senior store equipment specialist for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She was on her way to California to help prepare for a new T.J. Maxx store opening. Kaplan had returned to work this year after battling Crohn's disease, a life-threatening inflammatory illness of the gastrointestinal tract. She is survived by her father, Edward Kaplan, and mother, Francine.
Sara Low, 28, was a flight attendant from Batesville, Arkansas.

Seima Aoyama
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts, was a retired ballet dancer.
Susan MacKay, 44, of Westford, Massachusetts, was an employee of TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions.
Tara Creamer, 30, of Worcester, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos., the off-price retailer of apparel and home fashions. She had worked for TJX for eight years. Creamer is survived by her husband, John, and two children, Colin, 4, and Nora, 1.
Ted Hennessy, 35, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting in Belmont, Massachusetts.
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, was a Wilmot, New Hampshire, resident with 10 grandchildren. She was on her way to visit a sister in California. Daughter Cheryl O'Brien gave her mom a ride to catch a bus to Logan International Airport in Boston. "I was the last one to see her," O'Brien said. "I got to kiss her and say 'I love you' and 'Have a nice trip.' "
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California, was a cameraman for Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television.
Xavier Suarez

Edited 12/10/2001 10:27:26 PM ET by EWING2001

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From:	Ewing2001	12/10/2001 9:46 pm
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545.3 in reply to 545.2

AA 77 American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard. I counted 56 people

Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.
Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
Charles Droz
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."
Dee Flagg
Diane Simmons
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.
Eddie Dillard
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
George Simmons
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."

Edited 12/10/2001 9:52:20 PM ET by EWING2001

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From:	Ewing2001	12/10/2001 9:48 pm
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545.4 in reply to 545.3

Pt. 2 AA77

John Sammartino
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.
M.J. Booth
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Norma Langsteuerle
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.
Richard Gabriel
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Shuyin Yang
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
Vicki Yancey
William Caswell
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
Yuguag Zheng
Yvonne Kennedy
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

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From:	Ewing2001	12/10/2001 9:50 pm
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545.5 in reply to 545.4

United Airlines Flight 175, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, was the second hijacked plane to strike the World Trade Center, plowing into the south tower. Two pilots, seven flight attendants and 56 passengers were on board.
I counted 56 persons

Alfred G. Marchand of Alamogordo, New Mexico, was a flight attendant.
Alicia N. Titus was a flight atteandant.
Alona Avraham, 30, was from Ashdot, Israel.
Amy N. Jarret, 28, of North Smithfield, Rhode Island, was a flight attendant.
Amy R. King was a flight attendant.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, was from Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Brian Kinney, 29, of Lowell, Massachusetts, was an auditor for PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Capt. Victor Saracini, 51, of Lower Makefield Township, Pennsylvania, was a Navy veteran. He is survived by his wife and two children.
Carl Hammond, 37, was from Boston, Massachusetts.
Christine Hanson, 3, was from Groton, Massachusetts.
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, of Turner Falls, Massachusetts, was staff assistant in the office of information technology at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.
Daniel Brandhorst, of Los Angeles, California, was a lawyer for PriceWaterhouse.
David Brandhorst, 3, was from Los Angeles.
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, was from Long Beach, California.
Eric Hartono
Frederick Rimmele was a physician from Marblehead, Massachusetts.
Garnet "Ace" Bailey, 53, of Lynnfield, Massachusetts, was director of pro scouting for the Los Angeles Kings hockey team. Bailey was entering his 33rd season as a player or scout in the National Hockey League and his eighth with the Kings. Before joining the Kings, he spent 13 years as a scout for the Edmonton Oilers, a team that won five Stanley Cups during that time. As a player, Bailey spent five years with the Boston Bruins and was a member of Stanley Cup championship teams in 1969-70 and 1971-72. Bailey also spent parts of two seasons each with the Detroit Red Wings and St. Louis Blues, and three years with the Washington Capitals. He is survived by his wife, Katherine, and son, Todd.
Gerald Hardacre
Gloria Debarrera
Graham Berkeley, 37, of Xerox Corp. was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman and chief executive officer of BCT Technology Ag, of Germany was on a business trip involving contract negotiations with U.S. partners along with two other BCT execs, the company said in a statement. Kimmig studied mechanical engineering in college. After an internship, he became the design manager at Badische Stahl Engineering, and shortly after, he founded BSE Computer-Technologie GmbH, originally a locally operating software company. In 1999, this company became BCT Technology AG. Kimmig is survived by his wife and two children.
Herbert Homer,48, of Milford, Massachusetts, worked for Raytheon Co.
James E. Hayden, 47, of Westford, Massachusetts, was the chief financial officer of Netegrity Inc. Hayden is survived by his wife, Gail, and their two children.
James M. Roux, 42, was from Portland, Maine.
Jane Simpkin, 35, was from Wayland, Massachusetts.
Jesus Sanchez, 45, was an off-duty flight attendant from Hudson, Massachusetts.

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From:	Ewing2001	12/10/2001 9:51 pm
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545.6 in reply to 545.5

UA 175 Pt.2

John Cahill was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
John Corcoran "Jay" Corcoran, 44, of Norwell, Massachusetts, was a merchant marine.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, was from New London, Connecticut.
Kathleen Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Kathryn L. Laborie was a flight attendant.
Klaus Bothe, 31, of Germany was on a business trip with BCT Technology AG's chief executive officer and another executive. Bothe joined the company in 1994 and was its director of development. He is survived by his wife and one child.
Lisa Frost, 22, of Rancho Santa Margarita, California, graduated from Boston University this year, with degrees in communications and business hospitality. She is survived by her father, mother and brother.
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, was from Derry, New Hampshire.
Lynn Goodchild, 25, was from Attleboro, Massachusetts.
Maclovio "Joe" Lopez Jr., 41, was from Norwalk, California.
Marianne MacFarlane
Mark Bavis, 31, of West Newton, Massachusetts, was entering his second season as an amateur scout for the Los Angeles Kings. A Boston native, he played four years on Boston University's hockey team, where his twin brother, Michael, is an assistant coach. In addition to his twin brother, Bavis is survived by his mother, Mary; two other brothers, Pat and Johnny; and three sisters, Kelly, Mary Ellen and Kathy. The Bavis family lost a brother 15 years ago, and Bavis' father died 10 years ago.
Michael C. Tarrou was a flight attendant.
Michael Horrocks was first officer.
Patrick Quigley, 40, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a partner at PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Peter Hanson, 32, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a software salesman.
Ralph Kershaw, 52, of Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts, was a marine surveyor.
Robert J. Fangman was a flight attendant.
Robert Jalbert, 61, of Swampscott, Massachusetts, was a salesman.
Robert LeBlanc, 70, of Lee, New Hampshire, was a professor emeritus of geography at the University of New Hampshire. After earning his doctorate at the University of Minnesota, LeBlanc joined the University of New Hampshire's faculty in 1963 as a cultural geographer. With a specialty in Canadian studies, he looked at the Franco-American communities in New England's mill towns. He was acting chair and chair of the geography department for nearly 10 years, retiring in 1999.
Robert Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Ronald Gamboa, 33, of Los Angeles, California, was a Gap store manager.
Ruth McCourt, 24, was from Westford, Massachusetts.
Shawn Nassaney, 25, was from Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Susan Hanson, 35, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a student.

The Rev. Francis E. Grogan, 76, of Easton, Massachusetts, was a priest at Holy Cross Church in Easton. A veteran of World War II, Grogan served as a parish priest, a chaplain and teacher at Holy Cross schools.
Timothy Ward, 38, of San Diego, California, worked at the Carlsbad, California-based Rubio's Restaurants Inc. A 14-year veteran of the company, he opened its second restaurant in San Diego and most recently worked in the information technology department.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, was from Beverly Hills, California.
William Weems of Marblehead, Massachusetts, was a commercial producer.
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, of Germany joined BCT Technology AG in 2000 as director of human resources. He is survived by his wife and one child. Menzel had planned to retire in six months.

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From:	Ewing2001	12/10/2001 9:51 pm
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545.7 in reply to 545.6

United Airlines Flight 93, from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania, with 45 people on board.
I counted 32 peoplein this list.

Alan Beaven, 48, of Oakland, California, was an environmental lawyer.
Andrew Garcia
CeeCee Lyles of Fort Myers, Florida, was a flight attendant. She reached her husband, Lorne, by cell phone to tell him that she loved him and their children before the plane went down. The couple between them had four children.
Christian Adams
Christine Snyder, 32, was from Kailua, Hawaii. She was an arborist for the Outdoor Circle and was returning from a conference in Washington. She had been married less than a year.
Colleen Fraser
Deborah Welsh was a flight attendant.
Deora Bodley, 20, of Santa Clara, California, was a university student.
Donald F. Green, 52, was from Greenwich, Connecticut.
Edward Felt, 41, was from Matawan, New Jersey.
Georgine Corrigan
Honor Wainio
Jason Dahl, 43, from Denver, Colorado, was the plane's captain. He had a wife and son. Dahl had a lifelong interest in flying, said his aunt, Maxine Atkinson, of Waterloo, Iowa.
Jeremy Glick, 31, from West Milford, New Jersey, called his wife, Liz, and in-laws in New York on a cell phone to tell them the plane had been hijacked, Joanne Makely, Glick's mother-in-law, told CNN. Glick said that one of the hijackers "had a red box he said was a bomb, and one had a knife of some nature," Makely said. Glick asked Makely if the reports about the attacks on the World Trade Center were true, and she told him they were. He left the phone for a while, returning to say, "The men voted to attack the terrorists," Makely said.
John Talignani
Joseph Deluca
Lauren Grandcolas of San Rafael, California, was a sales worker at Good Housekeeping magazine.
Leroy Homer, 36, from Marlton, New Jersey, was the first officer on board. He was married and had a daughter.
Linda Gronlund
Lorraine Bay was a flight attendant.
Marion Britton
Mark Bingham, 31, of San Francisco owned a public relations firm, the Bingham Group. He called his mother, Alice Hoglan, 15 minutes before the plane crashed and told her that the plane had been taken over by three men who claimed to have a bomb. Hoglan said her son told her that some passengers planned to try to regain control of the plane. "He said, 'I love you very, very much, ' " Hoglan said.
Mark Rothenberg
Nicole Miller
Patrick Driscoll
Richard Guadagno, 38, of Eureka, California, was the manager of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Humboldt Bay National Wildlife Refuge.
Sandra Bradshaw, 38, of Greensboro, North Carolina, was a flight attendant.
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, of San Ramon, California, was a senior vice president and chief operating officer of Thoratec Corp., a medical research and development company, and the father of three. He made four calls to his wife, Deena, from the plane. Deena Burnett said that her husband told her that one passenger had been stabbed and that "a group of us are going to do something." He also told her that the people on board knew about the attack on the World Trade Center, apparently through other phone calls.
Todd Beamer, 32, was from Cranbury, New Jersey.
Toshiya Kuge
Waleska Martinez
Wanda Green was a flight attendant.
William Cashman

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From:	Ewing2001	12/10/2001 10:07 pm
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545.8 in reply to 545.7

The original passenger lists have been released on the American and United Airlines Webpages,but can't be find anymore.

I found now a google cached page in the CNN archive.
Here are the original addresses:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua175.victims.html

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua93.victims.html

I mirrored them at
http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/aa11.htm
http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/aa77.htm
http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/ua175.htm
http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/ua93.htm

These lists are however let indeed some questions open.
Here are the most frequently:

1) Why are the hijacker names not involved?
2) Why is no other arabic sounding name on that list?
3) Is it only a coincidence that the only arabs who have been on the board have been all hijackers? No innocent arab left?
No other muslim on board?
4) Why did noone of the passengers who called their relatives described them as arabic looking hijacker?
5) Why was the machine, who crashed the only one where eye-witnesses heard F16s, which was one week later confirmed by President Bush?
6) How could the FBI distinguish between "regular" Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights?
7) Did they just go through the passenger lists culling out the Muslim-sounding names and labeling the people bearing those names as hijackers?
8) Why they have been able to release all connected hijackers anyway?
9) Finally: Why is the public still not allowed to hear the conversation between the air controllers who observed all 4 planes?

I quoted some questions also from other websites.
There seems to be only one "official" explanation.
Someone from the FBI removed the hijacker list from the passenger list for investigation reasons.
But why didn't they add them again after everything "was prooved"?

PS: This list wasn't updated until September 30 and never again until now. For ethical reasons? It was a compiled list by Associated Press.

Usually the media tries to avoid sentimental or emotional reasons and release "complete lists"

I couldn't answer the other questions for myself. Is someone else able to do it?

More open 911-flight questions at:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ground_zero2001&msg=458.1

It includes the mystery about different seat numbers, the change of routes etc.
A different theory can be find at "Global Hawk" at
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ground_zero2001&msg=506.1

Edited 12/10/2001 10:31:21 PM ET by EWING2001

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From:	Ewing2001	1/13/2002 6:09 pm
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545.9 in reply to 545.8

Back by popular demand.

Below now also the official list of Pentagon victims.
From that you can see, that almost only army and navvy members have
been killed, but less defense agents.

http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2001/09/16/xa0722.htm

09/16/01 1:06 PM
By The Associated Press

Partial list of names released by the Defense Department of the 188 people who remain unaccounted for after Tuesday's attack on the Pentagon. The total includes 64 passengers aboard hijacked American Airlines Flight 77:

ARMY (21):
--Lt. Col. Canfield Boone, Indiana
--Sgt. First Class Jose Calderon, Puerto Rico
--Lt. Col. Jerry Dickerson, Mississippi
--Maj. Wallace Cole Hogan Jr., Florida
--Lt. Col. Stephen Neil Hyland, Jr., California
--Sgt. Maj. Lacey Ivory, Missouri
--Lt. Col. Dennis Johnson, Wisconsin
--Maj. Steve Long, Georgia
--Lt. Col. Dean Mattson, California
--Lt. Gen. Timothy J. Maude, Indianapolis, Ind.
--Maj. Ron Milam, Oklahoma
--Spec. Chin Sun Pak, Oklahoma
--Capt. Clifford Patterson, Alexandria, Va.
--Chief Warrant Officer 4th Class William Ruth, Maryland
--Lt. Col. Dave Scales, Cleveland, Ohio
--Sgt. Maj. Larry Strickland, Washington
--Maj. Kip Taylor, Michigan
--Sgt. Tamara Thurmond, Alabama
--Lt. Col. Karen Wagner, Texas
--Staff Sgt. Maudlyn White, St. Croix, Virgin Islands
--Maj. Dwayne Williams, Alabama

ARMY CIVILIANS (47):
--Samantha Allen, Hillside, Md.
--Master Sgt. Max Beilke, U.S. Army (Ret.), Laurel, Md.
--Carrie Blagburn, Temple Hills, Md.
--Angelene Carter, Forestville, Md.
--Craig Amundson, U.S. Army, 28, Kansas.
--Sharon Carver, Maryland
--John Chada, Manassas, Va.
--Ada Davis, Camp Springs, Md.
--Amelia Fields, Dumfries, Va.
--Cortz Ghee, Reisterstown, Md.
--Brenda Gibson, Falls Church, Va.
--Ron Golinski, Columbia, Md.
--Diane Hale-McKinzy, Alexandria, Va.
--Carolyn Halmon, Washington, D.C.
--Sheila Hein, University Park, Md.
--Jimmie Holley, Lanham, Md.
--Peggie Hurt, Crewe, Va.
--Brenda Kegler, Washington, D.C.
--David Laychak, Manassas, Va.
--Teresa Martin, Stafford, Va.
--Ada Mason, Springfield, Va.
--Robert Maxwell, Manassas, Va.
--Molly McKenzie, Dale City, Va.
--Odessa Morris, Upper Marlboro, Md.
--Ted Moy, Silver Spring, Md.
--Diana Padro, Woodbridge, Va.
--Debbie Ramsaur, Annandale, Va.
--Rhonda Rasmussen, Woodbridge, Va.
--Martha Reszke, Stafford, Va.
--Cecelia Richard, Fort Washington, Md.
--Edward Rowenhorst, Fredricksburg, Va.
--Judy Rowlett, Woodbridge, Va.
--Robert Russell, Oxen Hill, Md.
--Marjorie Salamone, Springfield, Va.
--Janice Scott, Springfield, Va.
--Michael Selves, Fairfax, Va.
--Marion Serva, Stafford, Va.
--Don Simmons, Dumfries, Va.
--Cheryle Sincock, Dale City, Va.
--Pat Statz, Tacoma Park, Md.
--Edna Stephens, Washington D.C.
--Lt. Col. Gary Smith, U.S. Army (Ret.), Alexandria, Va.
--Sandra Taylor, Alexandria, Va.
--Willie Troy, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md.
--Meta Waller, Alexandria, Va.
--Sandra White, Dumfries, Va.
--Lisa Young, Germantown, Md.

Edited 1/13/02 6:19:46 PM ET by EWING2001

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From:	Ewing2001	1/13/2002 6:12 pm
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545.10 in reply to 545.9

Pt. 2 Pentagon Attack List:

ARMY CONTRACTORS (6):
--Donna Bowen, Verizon Communications
--Gerald Fisher, Booz-Allen
--Terrance Lynch, Booz-Allen
--Scott Powell, BTG Inc.
--Ernest Willcher, Booz-Allen
--Edmond Young, BTG Inc.

DEFENSE AGENCIES:
--Allen Boyle, Fredericksburg, Va.
--Bryan C. Jack, Alexandria, Va.
--Rosa Maria (Rosemary) Chapa, Springfield, Va.
--Sandra N. Foster, Clinton, Md.
--Robert J. Hymel, Woodbridge, Va.
--Shelley A. Marshall, Marbury, Md.
--Patricia E. (Patti) Mickley, Springfield, Va.
--Charles E. Sabin, Burke, Va.
--Karl W. Teepe, Centreville, Va.
The Pentagon did not identify the specific agencies for whom these people worked.

NAVY (33):
--Yeoman Second Class Melissa Rose Barnes, 27, Redlands, Calif.
--Information Systems Technician Second Class Kris Romeo Bishundat, 23, Waldorf, Md.
--Electronics Technician Third Class Christopher Lee Burford, 23, Hubert, N.C.
--Electronics Technician Third Class Daniel Martin Caballero, 21, Houston.
--Lt. Eric Allen Cranford, 32, Drexel, N.C.
--Capt. Gerald Francis Deconto, 44, Sandwich, Mass.
--Information Systems Technician First Class Johnnie Doctor Jr., 32, Jacksonville, Fla.
--Cmdr. Robert Edward Dolan, 43, Florham Park, N.J.
--Cmdr. William Howard Donovan Jr., 37, Nunda, N.Y.
--Cmdr. Patrick Dunn, 39, Fords, N.J.
--Aerographer's Mate First Class Edward Thomas Earhart, 26, Salt Lick, Ky.
--Lt. Cmdr. Robert Randolph Elseth, 37, of Vestal, N.Y.
--Storekeeper Third Class Jamie Lynn Fallon, 23, Woodbridge, Va.
--Aerographer's Mate Second Class Matthew Michael Flocco, 21, of Newark, Del.
--Capt. Lawrence Daniel Getzfred, 57, of Elgin, Neb.
--Electronics Technician First Class Ronald John Hemenway, 37, of Shawnee, Kan.
--Lt. Michael Scott Lamana, 31, of Baton Rouge, La.
--Operations Specialist Second Class Nehamon Lyons IV, 30, of Mobile, Ala.
--Electronics Technician Second Class Brian Anthony Moss, 34, of Sperry, Okla.
--Lt. Cmdr. Patrick Jude Murphy, 38, of Flossmoor, Ill.
--Illustrator/Draftsman Second Class Michael Allen Noeth, 30, of Jackson Heights, N.Y.
--Lt. Jonas Martin Panik, 26, of Mingoville, Pa.
--Lt. j.g. Darin Howard Pontell, 26, of Columbia, Md.
--Aviation Warfare Systems Operator First Class Joseph John Pycior Jr., 39, of Carlstadt, N.J.
--Information Systems Technician First Class Marsha Dianah Ratchford, 34, of Prichard, Ala.
--Cmdr. Robert Allan Schlegel, 38, of Gray, Maine.
--Cmdr. Dan Frederic Shanower, 40, of Naperville, Ill.
--Chief Information Systems Technician Gregg Harold Smallwood, 44, of Overland Park, Kan.
--Lt. Cmdr. Otis Vincent Tolbert, 38, of Lemoore, Calif.
--Lt. Cmdr. Ronald James Vauk, 37, of Nampa, Idaho.
--Lt. Cmdr. David Lucian Williams, 32, of Newport, Ore.
--Information Systems Technician Second Class Kevin Wayne Yokum, 27, of Lake Charles, La.
--Chief Information Systems Technician Donald McArthur Young, 41, of Roanoke, Va.

NAVY CIVILIANS (5):
--Angela Houtz, 27, of La Plata, Md.
--Brady Howell, 26, of Arlington, Va.
--Judith Jones, 53, of Woodbridge, Va.
--James Lynch, no age given, of Manassas, Va.
--Capt. (Retired) Jack Punches, 51, of Clifton, Va.

NAVY CONTRACTORS (4):
--Julian Cooper, 39, of Springdale, Md.
--Jerry Moran, 39, Upper Marlboro, Md.
--Khang Nguyen, no age given, Fairfax, Va.
--Marvin Woods, 58, of Great Mills, Md.

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From:	Bab6s	1/13/2002 7:08 pm
To:	Ewing2001	(11 of 29)

545.11 in reply to 545.10

I see my friend's colleague on the list from Boston. :(

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Bubbles .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

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From:	Ewing2001	2/11/2002 12:19 pm
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545.12 in reply to 545.1

Exclusive: The FAA Report

Back to the Passenger List. We all know, that for odd reasons all 19 hijackers never appeared on the official list from UA and AA.
CNN also didn't get a list with the hijackers.

If you compare now the original list (which was later erased from the websites of UA and AA; (the FBI released all 19 names on September 15th, 5 names from Flight 11 they released already on Sept 11th) with the FAA report,you come to the same conclusion.

For instance if you look at the report Flight 11, which crashed into the North Tower, you will count the same numbers of passengers as on the released list= 92 (instead of 97 including 5 hijackers)

Here are the original FAA reports of that week. It includes also other flights.

================================================================
**** 09/25/2001 Preliminary Accident/Incident Data Record 1 ****
A. Type: A Mid Air: N Missing: N Entry date: 09/12/2001
From: NEW ENGLAND REGION OPERATIONS CENTER

B. Reg. No.: 1189N M/M: YAK Desc: 1987 YAKOVLEV YAK 52
Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown GA-A/C: General Aviation
Descr: ACFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES AND WAS DESTROYED, THE 2
POB SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES, WASHINGTON, CT.

Wx: UNKN
Damage: Destroyed
C2. Injury Data: # Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
D. Location. City: WASHINGTON State: CT Country: US
E. Event Date: 09/11/2001 Time: 1830
F. Invest Coverage. IIC: Reg/DO: NE03 DO City: WINDSOR LOCKS
DO State: CT Others: NTSB
Dest: UNKN Last Radio Cont: UNKN Flt Plan: UNK
Last Clearance: UNKN WX Briefing: U
Other:

AAI IIC:

**** 09/25/2001 Preliminary Accident/Incident Data Record 2 ****
A. Type: A Mid Air: N Missing: N Entry date: 09/12/2001
From: EASTERN REGION OPERATIONS CENTER

B. Reg. No.: 334AA M/M: B767 Desc: B-767
Activity: Business Phase: Other GA-A/C: Air Carrier
Descr: AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11 WAS EN ROUTE FROM BOSTON, MA, TO LOS
ANGELES, CA, WHEN IT WAS HIJACKED AND CRASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN, THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND
ALL 92 POB SUFFERED FATAL INJUREIS, THE NUMBER/EXTENT OF INJURIES
ON THE GROUND IS UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME, NEW YORK, NY.

Wx: METAR 111251Z 31010KT 10SM FEW250 21/14 A3013
Damage: Destroyed
C2. Injury Data: # Crew: 11 Fat: 11 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 81 Fat: 81 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Y
D. Location. City: NEW YORK State: NY Country: US
E. Event Date: 09/11/2001 Time: 1250
F. Invest Coverage. IIC: Reg/DO: EA15 DO City: NEW YORK
DO State: NY Others: NTSB/FBI
G. Flt Handling. Dep Pt: BOSTON, MA Dep Date: 09/11/2001 Time:
Dest: LOS ANGELES, CA Last Radio Cont: UNKN Flt Plan: IFR
Last Clearance: UNKN WX Briefing: U
Other:

AAI IIC:

**** 09/25/2001 Preliminary Accident/Incident Data Record 3 ****
A. Type: A Mid Air: N Missing: N Entry date: 09/12/2001
From: EASTERN REGION OPERATIONS CENTER

B. Reg. No.: 591UA M/M: B757 Desc: B-757
Activity: Business Phase: Other GA-A/C: Air Carrier
Descr: UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93 WAS EN ROUTE FROM NEWARK, NJ, TO SAN
FRANCISCO, CA, WHEN IT WAS HIJACKED AND CRASHED SOUTH OF INDIAN
LAKE ARPT, THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED, AND DEBRIS WAS SCATTERED OVER A
2 MILE AREA, ALL 45 POB WERE FATALLY INJURED, BUCKSTOWN, PA.

Wx: METAR 11154Z AUTO 30009KT 10SM CLR 16/12 A3029
Damage: Destroyed
C2. Injury Data: # Crew: 7 Fat: 7 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 38 Fat: 38 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
D. Location. City: BUCKSTOWN State: PA Country: US
E. Event Date: 09/11/2001 Time: 1400
F. Invest Coverage. IIC: Reg/DO: EA03 DO City: ALLEGHENY CO.
DO State: PA Others: NTSB/FBI
G. Flt Handling. Dep Pt: NEWARK, NJ Dep Date: 09/11/2001 Time:
Dest: SAN FRANCISCO, CA Last Radio Cont: UNKN Flt Plan: IFR
Last Clearance: UNKN WX Briefing: U
Other:

AAI IIC: JAMES

**** 09/25/2001 Preliminary Accident/Incident Data Record 4 ****
A. Type: A Mid Air: N Missing: N Entry date: 09/12/2001
From: EASTERN REGION OPERATIONS CENTER

B. Reg. No.: 612UA M/M: B767 Desc: B-767
Activity: Business Phase: Other GA-A/C: Air Carrier
Descr: UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 WAS EN ROUTE FROM BOSTON, MA, TO LOS
ANGELES, CA, WHEN IT WAS HIJACKED AND CRASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN AND WAS DESTROYED, ALL 65
POB SUFFERED FATAL INJURIES, AND THE NUMBER/EXTENT OF INJURIES ON
THE GROUND IS UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME, NEW YORK, NY.

Edited 2/11/2002 12:23:19 PM ET by EWING2001

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From:	Ewing2001	2/11/2002 12:20 pm
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545.13 in reply to 545.12

Wx: METAR 111251Z 31010KT 10SM FEW250 21/14 A3013
Damage: Destroyed
C2. Injury Data: # Crew: 9 Fat: 9 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 56 Fat: 56 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Y
D. Location. City: NEW YORK State: NY Country: US
E. Event Date: 09/11/2001 Time: 1250
F. Invest Coverage. IIC: Reg/DO: EA15 DO City: NEW YORK
DO State: NY Others: NTSB/FBI
G. Flt Handling. Dep Pt: BOSTON, MA Dep Date: 09/11/2001 Time:
Dest: LOS ANGELES, CA Last Radio Cont: UNKN Flt Plan: IFR
Last Clearance: UNKN WX Briefing: U
Other:

AAI IIC:

**** 09/25/2001 Preliminary Accident/Incident Data Record 5 ****
A. Type: A Mid Air: N Missing: N Entry date: 09/12/2001
From: EASTERN REGION OPERATIONS CENTER

B. Reg. No.: 644AA M/M: B757 Desc: B-757
Activity: Business Phase: Other GA-A/C: Air Carrier
Descr: AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77 WAS EN ROUTE FROM WASHINGTON-DULLES,
VA, TO LOS ANGELES, CA, WHEN IT WAS HIJACKED AND CRASHED INTO THE
PENTAGON, THE ACFT WAS DESTROYED AND ALL 64 POB WERE FATALLY
INJURED, THE NUMBER/EXTENT OF INJURIES ON THE GROUND IS UNKNOWN AT
THIS TIME, WASHINGTON, DC.

Wx: METAR KDCA 1251Z 35005KT 10SM CLR 21/14 A3021
Damage: Destroyed
C2. Injury Data: # Crew: 6 Fat: 6 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 58 Fat: 58 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Y
D. Location. City: WASHINGTON State: DC Country: US
E. Event Date: 09/11/2001 Time: 1250
F. Invest Coverage. IIC: Reg/DO: EA27 DO City: WASHINGTON IAD
DO State: DC Others: NTSB/FBI
G. Flt Handling. Dep Pt: DULLES, VA Dep Date: 09/11/2001 Time:
Dest: LOS ANGELES, CA Last Radio Cont: UNKN Flt Plan: IFR
Last Clearance: UNKN WX Briefing: U
Other:

AAI IIC:

**** 09/25/2001 Preliminary Accident/Incident Data Record 6 ****
A. Type: I Mid Air: N Missing: N Entry date: 09/12/2001
From: SOUTHERN REGION OPERATIONS CENTER

B. Reg. No.: FCI269 M/M: C210 Desc: 210, T210, (Turbo)Centurion
Activity: Business Phase: Landing GA-A/C: Air Taxi (On Demand)
Descr: FAST CREEK AIR TAXI ACFT (CARGO HAULER) NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED ON
LANDING, THE ACFT HAS MINOR DAMAGE, NO INJURIES WERE REPORTED TO
THE PILOT/SOLE OCCUPANT, JACKSONVILLE, FL.

Wx: METAR CRG SPECI 111437Z 05009KT 10SM FEW040 27/24 A3008
Damage: Minor
C2. Injury Data: # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
D. Location. City: JACKSONVILLE State: FL Country: US
E. Event Date: 09/11/2001 Time: 1429
F. Invest Coverage. IIC: Reg/DO: SO15 DO City: ORLANDO
Dest: JACKSONVILLE, FL Last Radio Cont: SHRT FINAL RY05 Flt Plan: IFR
Last Clearance: CLRD TO LAND WX Briefing: U
Other:

AAI IIC:
========================================================
Source:
http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/D_0912_N.txt
http://www.danford.net/faarpt.htm

=========================================================
Please read also:
"911-analysis by professional pilots" at
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ground_zero2001&msg=743.1

Edited 3/1/2002 4:48:34 PM ET by EWING2001

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From:	Ewing2001	2/21/2002 6:48 pm
To:	ALL	(14 of 29)

545.14 in reply to 545.13

Latest math (compared with statistics of FAA protocol):

#11 -92 people aboard, 87 names on list (5 missing) (92 counted FAA)

#77 -64 on board, 56 names on list (8 missing) (64 counted FAA)

#93 -55 on board, 33 names on list (12 missing) (55 counted FAA)

#175 -65 on board, 56 names (9 missing) (65 counted FAA)

Who's missing besides the hijackers?

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From:	Ewing2001	2/24/2002 2:45 pm
To:	ALL	(15 of 29)

545.15 in reply to 545.14

NY Times mentions the oddities of the missing names of the passenger list

"..The secrecy extends to the passenger lists. American and United did not release all the names of people aboard. United said at the time that it believed a safety board regulation allowed it to withhold some names, but the board said it had no such regulation.."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/23/national/23DATA.html

The whole story

"..Government Releases Little Information on Sept. 11 Crashes
By MATTHEW L. WALD

Within five months of an accidental crash, the National Transportation Safety Board has typically released thousands of words of technical information. In the case of the four planes involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, the board has said nothing and is not likely to, because it has given jurisdiction over the case to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which looks at the information as potential evidence in a criminal case.

A more normal crash is the one that occurred in New York two months after the terrorist attacks, when an American Airlines jet leaving Kennedy Airport broke up in flight. That was on Nov. 12, and the safety board held news conferences near the scene for several days.

The board has issued four updates since then, and earlier this month it sent a letter to the Federal Aviation Administration about a safety hazard revealed by the crash. And on Wednesday, the agency released transcripts of air traffic control conversations at the time of the crash.

The safety board is planning a hearing on that crash in late summer. There it will release the transcript of the cockpit voice recorder and information from the flight data recorder (the black boxes) as well as thousands of pages of reports on engines, structures, air traffic control considerations, training and other factors. And about two years after the crash, it will probably issue a final report.

The air traffic control tapes from Sept. 11 were quite revealing but have not been released. The New York Times obtained transcripts of three of them and published excerpts in October. The transcript for the fourth, the plane that crashed in Somerset County, Pa., has not come to light.

Nor has analysis of radar data, typically made public in days, been revealed for the Sept. 11 planes. The black boxes from the World Trade Center airplanes are not thought to have survived the towers' collapse. Both boxes from the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania and the flight data recorder from the Pentagon plane have been analyzed, but are also closely held.

The secrecy extends to the passenger lists. American and United did not release all the names of people aboard. United said at the time that it believed a safety board regulation allowed it to withhold some names, but the board said it had no such regulation.

The government has indicted one man on charges of being a conspirator in the Sept. 11 terrorism, Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, but the indictment does not go into any technical details about the planes that crashed.

Joseph Valiquette, a spokesman for the F.B.I. in New York, said, "Unless there were the possibility that such information might be used in a criminal proceeding, I don't know that the F.B.I. would have any problem with the release of that information."

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From:	Ewing2001	2/28/2002 1:37 pm
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545.16 in reply to 545.12

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/faa911memo.jpg

FAA-Protocal summary

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From:	Ewing2001	3/19/2002 1:28 am
To:	ALL	(17 of 29)

545.17 in reply to 545.16

1 Passenger booked 2 tickets
(from original United Airlines Site, found in google cache)

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:PqglzgtpHM4C:www.ual.com/site/primaryPR/0,10026,1528_885,00.html+Flight+93+%2B+numbers&hl=en

September 12, 2001
01:03PM, EST

"...There were two pilots, five flight attendants and 37 passengers onboard flight UA 93. NOTE: The number of passengers onboard United Flight 93 was corrected to 37 after United learned that one passenger had purchased two tickets. This led the airline initially to report that there were 38 passengers onboard the flight, when there were, in fact, 37 passengers onboard.

There were two pilots, seven flight attendants and 56 passengers onboard flight UA 175.

The passenger and crew member names for each flight are as follows:

NOTE: The list of our passengers' and crew members' names has been updated with additional information on September 13, 14, 15, 17 and 18, in accordance with the requests of the families..."

GZ-NOTE: As always known, no hijacker appeared on the September 12th-passenger list.

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From:	Ewing2001	4/2/2002 8:01 pm
To:	ALL	(18 of 29)

545.18 in reply to 545.14

Back to a classic detail, the "cell phone calls" (including the one by Barbara Olsen on the Pentagon machine).

All others officially had been made on the Pennsylvannia machine

Thx to Ajw18, DU, which asked me for my opinion again.

This cell phone story also puzzled me for a while,
because it was later turned into a legend:

Many 911-sceptics started to claim in November/December 2001,
that the calls never appeared on any bill.

How did they found out, i asked myself. And whoelse started that rumour or a "fact" first? And how did he found out?
He must have been an investigative kickass, because he must have had the passenger list, found out, which telephones had been used and then also asked the owners to take a look on their bill or what?

Well, i couldn't find any article about that, so i've put it into the annoying "legend"-locker.

I can't imagine that Ted Olsen lied, so i always believed that these cell phone talks really existed. Maybe not every cell phone talk story is true (Pennsylvannia), but a lot of things hade been made up on that day on purpose.

The credit card billing procedure makes sense for me.
That's why i thought the hijackers had forced some passengers to call their relatives.

If that wasn't the case, i would agree, that the story under this stress makes not much sense anymore.

So i will try to think about the whole story again.

About the passengers: They are all dead. I don't believe in this theory, that they all got a new identity elsewhere.
We should concentrate on realistic explanations.

The plane was either shot down over the Pentagon or crashed precised (with or without global hawk technology) into the fresh renovated part of the Pentagon.

Even with a bomb this was planned. Only a few secret service members died, the rest had been Navy or Army contractors.

If i agree with the physical explanation, that the plane crashed into this small part of the Pentagon,didn't come from the front but from a 45 degrees angle from the left and the wings had been destroyed in this small crater as well (sizzer-effect) then it was even more a precise act.

Other possibilities we already analysed in the Pentagon-Topic.
Shutdown elsewhere? Crash into the Pennsylvannia -machine as well etc..

The rest was disinformation strategy by the Pentagon.

But back to the cellphones. How did Barbara Olsen call?
Did she?

Anyway, i tried to find an article about that,which was from a newer
article one month ago.
This is what i found at Daily Telegraph (owned by Hollinger Inc./Richard Perle, Pentagon advisor):

The article itself doesn't really prove it.
Can we speculate now about voice software?
What are your conclusions?

Here is the most important part:

"...she wasn't using her cellphone, she was using the phone in the passengers' seats..."

http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/family/main.jhtml?xml=/family/2002/03/05/folsen05.xml

'She asked me how to stop the plane'
(Filed: 05/03/2002)

(...US Solicitor General Ted Olson ...tells Toby Harnden of her bravery during her final call from the hijacked plane)

"....On September 11, American Airlines Flight 77 plunged into the Pentagon with Barbara Olson on board. It was Ted Olson's 61st birthday that day and Barbara had delayed flying to Los Angeles so they could celebrate over dinner the night before.

That morning, a nightmare began to unfold in the room where we are now sitting. "Someone rushed in and told me what had happened. I went into the other room, where there's a television," Olson says. "It went through my mind, 'My God, maybe - Barbara's on an airplane, and two airplanes have been crashed', you know."

Then his secretary told him that Barbara was on the line. "My first reaction when I heard she was on the phone was relief, because I knew that she wasn't on one of those two airplanes." But Barbara then explained calmly that she had been herded to the back of the Boeing 757 she was on, along with the other passengers.

"She had had trouble getting through, because she wasn't using her cellphone, she was using the phone in the passengers' seats," says Olson. "I guess she didn't have her purse, because she was calling collect, and she was trying to get through to the Department of Justice, which is never very easy."

He was able to tell her about the World Trade Centre attacks before the line went dead, then he called his departmental command centre to let them know another plane had been hijacked. The phone rang again and it was Barbara.

"She wanted to know, 'What can I tell the pilot? What can I do? How can I stop this?' I tried to find out where she thought she was - I wanted to know where the airplane was and what direction it was going in, because I thought that was the first step to being able to do something.

"We both tried to reassure one another that everything was going to be OK, she was still alive, the plane was still up in the air. But I think she knew that it wasn't going to be OK and I knew it wasn't going to be OK."

They were able to have "personal exchanges", he says, before they were cut off in mid-conversation. "It just stopped. It could be the impact, although I think she would have There's no point in speculating."

As soon as he heard a plane had crashed at the Pentagon, he says, "I knew it was her". Olson's voice, which his wife once described as a "rich, rumbling, sort of makes-your-ribs-vibrate" sound, begins to scratch like tired feet wading through gravel. It drops to a whisper and he fetches a glass of water...."

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From:	Ewing2001	4/2/2002 8:17 pm
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545.19 in reply to 545.18

I forgot to paste what Ajw18 found out at another page:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/lies911/lies.htm

Mother of All Lies About 9/11
Barbara Olson's "Phone Call" From Flight 77

"...Though the American Airlines Boeing 757 is fitted with individual telephones at each seat position, they are not of the variety where you can simply pick up the handset and ask for an operator. On many aircraft you can talk from one seat to another in the aircraft free of charge, but if you wish to access the outside world you must first swipe your credit card through the telephone. By Ted Olson�s own admission, Barbara did not have a credit card with her.

It gets worse. On American Airlines there is a telephone "setup" charge of US$2.50 which can only be paid by credit card, then a US$2.50 (sometimes US$5.00) charge per minute of speech thereafter. The setup charge is the crucial element. Without paying it in advance by swiping your credit card you cannot access the external telephone network. Under these circumstances the passengers� seat phone on a Boeing 757 is a much use as a plastic toy.

Perhaps Ted Olson made a mistake and Barbara managed to borrow a credit card from a fellow passenger? Not a chance. If Barbara had done so, once swiped through the phone, the credit card would have enabled her to call whoever she wanted to for as long as she liked, negating any requirement to call collect....

...By the sixth month anniversary of the attack, Ted Olson was allegedly interviewed by London Telegraph reporter Toby Harnden, with his exclusive story �She Asked Me How To Stop The Plane� appearing in that London newspaper on March 5, thereafter renamed and syndicated around dozens of western countries as �Revenge Of The Spitfire�, finally appearing in the West Australian newspaper on Saturday March 23, 2002. I have diligently tried to find a copy of this story in an American newspaper but have so far failed..."

"...Ask yourself: What would most Americans have been thinking about on September 12, if CNN had not provided this timely fiction? Would anyone anywhere have really believed the insane government story about failed Cessna pilots with box cutters taking over heavy jets, then hurling them expertly around the sky like polished Top Guns from the film of the same name? Of course not! As previously stated there would have been no Osama Bin Laden, and no �War on Terror� in Afghanistan and occupied Palestine.
This report is designed to examine the sequence of the Olson events and lay them bare for public examination. Dates and times are of crucial importance here, so if this report seems tedious try to bear with me...

...At no point in the above report does CNN quote Ted Olson directly. If the report was authentic and 100% attributable, it would have been phrased quite differently. Instead of �Ted Olson told CNN that his wife said all passengers and flight personnel��, the passage would read approximately:- Mr Olson told CNN, �My wife said all passengers and flight personnel�� Whoever wrote this story was certainly not in direct contact with US Solicitor General Ted Olson..."

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From:	Ewing2001	4/20/2002 10:04 pm
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545.20 in reply to 545.19

Last week some relatives of Flight 93 were allowed to listen to a 30 minute loop tape of the Voice Recorder.
NY TIMES wrote some weeks ago, that a two-toned signal was on that tape and at no time a hijacker was recognised.

FOX wasn't allowed to interview these relatives, CNN was.
All for a sudden one older lady was talking about 3 hijackers.
How did she know? Who told her, what to recognise?

The original passenger from Sep1th/12th list didn't include any arab name.

Here is another old analysis by PH.D Historian Gary North, who analysed all passenger lists:

http://eionews.addr.com/psyops/news/passenger_list_puzzle.htm

Gary North's REALITY CHECK
Number 82 October 12, 2001

THE PERPLEXING PUZZLE OF THE PUBLISHED PASSENGER LISTS

"...United Flight 93, which crashed in
Pennsylvania. It had 45 people on board, according to the
summation.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua93.victims.html

Again, there is a discrepancy. Only 33 names appear
on the list. A dozen names are missing. Among the missing
names are the four Arabs who allegedly hijacked the plane.

So, the published names in no instance match the total
listed for the number of people on board. CNN really
should offer an explanation for this discrepancy.

In no case does an Arab name appear on a list, let
alone one of the alleged hijackers.

How did CNN fail to count the names accurately? Did
the airlines not provide the full list of each flight's
names? Perhaps so.

This raises the next question. How did the airlines
know how many people were on each of these flights? The
airlines must have had a list for each flight. What
possible reason could they have had for not releasing the
full lists? Finally, why are there no Arabs listed on any
of these lists, let alone the specific Arabs identified by
the Attorney General and the head of the FBI in an
Associated Press story?

I do not understand how 19 Arabs could have evaded the
check-in procedures. I also do not understand why every
passenger's name is not on the published lists.

I have seen no other source of the passenger lists.
(Another search word: "manifests.") It has now been over a
month since the attack. Where is a complete list? I don't
know. Where is a complete list of all four flights that
has the alleged hijackers' names on it? I don't know.

Finally, where is some enterprising reporter who is
trying to get answers? I don't know..."

NOTE:

Here are the GZ- mirror pages of the original passenger lists:

UA Article from September 12th incl. Passenger list from UA 93 and UA175, erased on Sep13th from their website
(it's from the google cache, which included some updates):

http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/ua_mirror93.htm

CNN article including passenger list from UA93:
http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/ua93.htm

CNN article including passenger list from AA11 and AA77

http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/aa11.htm
http://www.lebensaspekte.de/groundzero/aa77.htm

The AA article from their website was erased on Sep13th as well.
I was searching on that day for any arab names, but couldn't find any one. 1 Day later on CNN the list was exactly the same, no updates, but some new biographies.

I couldn't mirror the original AA article in time, but saved the CNN article.

Edited 4/21/2002 12:06:20 AM ET by EWING2001

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