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FAA alerted Military Immediately; AF Prevented From Responding (english) by TOP VIEW 3:40pm Mon Dec 10 '01 (Modified on 12:44am Fri Dec 14 '01) top_view@planetmail.com <mailto:top_view@planetmail.com>;

"..The Air Force spokesman confirmed that after alerts and requests for intercepts of the aircraft were received from FAA/ATC, orders from the HIGHEST LEVEL of the federal government demanded that the Air Force stand down and NOT follow through with established scramble/ intercept procedures until further notice! Re: AF Spokesman: FAA Alerted Military Immediately On 9.11; Mon Dec 10 16:41:06 2001 ** TOP_VIEW ** The Big Picture 12.09.01 AF Spokesman: FAA Alerted Military Immediately On 9.11; AF Prevented From Responding TOP_VIEW conducted a phone interview on 12.09.01 with a spokesperson for the U.S. Air Force, located in New York.

This person was ordered to the Ground Zero, Pennsylvania and Pentagon 9.11 crash sites within several days of the events, as part of an Air Force investigative probe. Crucial information was conveyed to us, related specifically to the entire matter of IF or WHEN FAA/ATC personnel alerted appropriate Air National Guard/Air Force units, that four large passenger jets were significantly off course and that all standard communications with these craft had been broken. We were informed that standard procedures fully in effect on the morning of September 11 were absolutely followed to a "T" by U.S. Air Traffic Control personnel; that via established channels and according to established guidelines, U.S. Air National Guard and Air Force units -- which are ALWAYS on alert to be scrambled for intercepts of either distressed OR suspicious and possibly hostile aircraft 365/24/7 in these United States -- WERE DEFINITELY contacted by FAA/ATC on 9.11 IMMEDIATELY after Air Traffic Control had become aware of the developing situation with the jets.

The Air Force spokesman confirmed that after the alerts and requests for intercepts of the aircraft were received from FAA/ATC, orders from the HIGHEST LEVEL of the executive branch of the federal government were received, demanding that the Air Force stand down and NOT follow through with established scramble/intercept procedures that morning until further notice! The U.S. Air Force's hands (wings) were DELIBERATELY TIED on the morning of September 11, until such time that the horrifying treacherous, murderous deeds had been carried out by the BushMob. Our informant has told us in no uncertain terms that as much as seventy percent of Armed Forces officers -- with the NOTABLE exception of the U.S. Navy -- are VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED to the treacherous, murderous actions carried out by profoundly corrupt and demonic elements within the federal government on 9.11, and to the wholesale treachery and demolition of the U.S. Constitution which said elements have now undertaken.

It was conveyed to us that the "story" is by no means over yet; that the fat lady has by NO means yet "sung", and that this large percentage of the military who DO support, uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution are NOT going let all this just "slide". They are simply waiting for the right time, to do all within their power to set things straight in the United States. Our source furthermore fully concurred with the assessment of ourselves and others: that a CRUCIAL element in the government being able to "SELL" to the public their utterly false fables about WHY 9.11 death planes were NOT intercepted by Air Guard/Air Force units has to do with a deliberate, major and blatant distortion and twisting of the truth by none other than Dick Cheney himself; accomplished in the following manner.

Cheney, while being interviewed by Tim Russert on NBC TV's 'MEET THE PRESS on September 16th, claimed that the military needed authorization from the president before scrambling fighter jets to intercept American Airlines Flight 77. THIS IS A BIG, BIG, LIE, plain and simple. For example: remember two years ago, when golf pro Payne Stewart's small PRIVATE Lear jet went off-course and out of communication just after takeoff in Florida? Within MINUTES, on an immediate alert from the FAA, U.S. Air Force and Air Guard jets were scrambled to intercept Stewart's jet and see what the heck was up (not that it helped much in that case...):

MR. RUSSERT: What's the most important decision you think he made during the course of the day?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, the--I suppose the toughest decision was this question of whether or not we would intercept incoming commercial aircraft.

MR. RUSSERT: And you decided?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: We decided to do it. We'd, in effect, put a flying combat air patrol up over the city; F-16s with an AWACS, which is an airborne radar system, and tanker support so they could stay up a long time... "It doesn't do any good to put up a combat air patrol if you don't give them instructions to act, if, in fact, they feel it's appropriate.

MR. RUSSERT: So if the United States government became aware that a hijacked commercial airline was destined for the White House or the Capitol, we would take the plane down?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yes. The president made the decision...that if the plane would not divert...as a last resort, our pilots were authorized to take them out. Now, people say, you know, that's a horrendous decision to make. Well, it is. You've got an airplane full of American citizens, civilians, captured by...terrorists, headed and are you going to, in fact, shoot it down, obviously, and kill all those Americans on board? "

...It's a presidential-level decision, and the president made, I think, exactly the right call in this case, to say, "I wished we'd had combat air patrol up over New York." --NBC, 'Meet the Press' 16 September 2001 (1) * * *

FROM: http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-1.htm

"..He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane.."

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/pit/news/stories/news-95780920010912-110907.html

Flight 93 Passenger Said He Planned Action
Crash Victims Made Final Calls Via Cell Phones

POSTED: 12:19 p.m. EDT September 12, 2001

SHANKSVILLE, Pa. --
"..Shortly before United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in southwestern Pennsylvania, a passenger told his wife the plane had been hijacked -- and that he was going to do something about it.
In his phone call, passenger Thomas Burnett told his wife, Deena, "I know we're all going to die -- there's three of us who are going to do something about it." Then, Burnett told his wife, "I love you, honey" and the call ended, the family's priest, the Rev. Frank Colacicco, told the San Francisco Chronicle.

It wasn't clear what caused the plane to go down when it did or whether the passengers had any effect.

Several people were able to make calls from the plane before the Boeing 757 slammed into a grassy field about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. Rescue crews who reached the scene shortly after 10 a.m. found a deep V-shaped gouge filled with smoldering rubble. Forty-five people had been on board.

"We're being hijacked!" one man repeatedly told dispatchers who answered 911 lines before the plane crashed in western Pennsylvania.

Tuesday's hijacking was the last of four closely timed terrorist attacks, following the two crashes into New York's World Trade Center towers and a third into the Pentagon.

U.S. officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity that the Secret Service had alerted the White House that the hijackers may have been headed for Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland. Fearing the White House might be a target, the Secret Service diverted President Bush, who had been in Florida, to Louisiana and then Nebraska.

Flight 93 left Newark at 8:01 a.m. EDT headed for San Francisco. As it approached Cleveland, radar showed the plane banked left and headed back toward southwest Pennsylvania. Cleveland Mayor Michael R. White had said that air traffic controllers said they could hear screaming on a plane they communicated with.

On board, flight attendant CeeCee Lyles grabbed her cell phone and call her husband and four sons in Fort Myers, Fla.

"She called him and let him know how much she loved him and the boys," said her aunt, Mareya Schneider. During the call, he heard people screaming in the background, Schneider said.

In California, Alice Hoglan picked up her phone about 9:45 EDT to the hear the voice of her son, Mark Bingham, 31.

"He said, 'I want you to know I love you very much. I'm calling you from the plane. We've been taken over. There are three men that say they have a bomb," Hoglan said. The phone went dead a short time later.

The caller who reached emergency dispatchers said he was inside a locked bathroom on the plane.

Dispatcher Glenn Cramer said the man repeatedly said, "We're being hijacked!" and that his call was not a hoax.

"He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane and we lost contact with him," Cramer said. The man never identified himself.

Tuesday night, FBI agents and forensic archeologists began picking through tiny pieces of rubble. Neither the cockpit voice recorder nor the flight data recorder had been recovered, and it was expected to be days before the victims could be identified.

In Pennsylvania's Richland Township, Cambria County, on Tuesday morning, police Chief Jim Mock said air traffic control coordinators reported a large aircraft heading toward the John Murtha Johnstown Cambria County Municipal Airport. The controllers said the aircraft would not identify itself.

Minutes later, the plane crashed in rural Somerset County, about 20 miles away.

"It was like an atomic bomb hit," said John Walsh, 72, who heard the crash and drove to the site while still in his bathrobe. "When I got there, the plane was obliterated. You couldn't see the cockpit or the wings or nothing."

Mark Stahl was listening to reports about the World Trade Center attacks on the radio when he heard Flight 93 crash. In nearby Shanksville, the crash sent people running to their doors, and the fire whistles began blowing.

"I didn't know what to think," Stahl said. "It was shocking."

United CEO James Goodwin said the airline was sending a team to Pennsylvania to assist the investigation and provide assistance to family members. United said it had identified all passengers and crew and was notifying families. No names were released immediately.

"Today's events are a tragedy and our prayers are with everyone at this time," Goodwin said..."

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleID=40198&SectionID=25&SubSectionID=354&S=1

Thursday, September 13, 2001

"..Controllers have also learned that an F-16 fighter closely pursued hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 until it crashed in southwestern Pennsylvania, the employee said.

Although controllers don't have complete details of the Air Force's chase of the Boeing 757, they have learned the F-16 made 360-degree turns to remain close to the commercial jet, the employee said.

"He must've seen the whole thing," the employee said of the F-16 pilot's view of Flight 93's crash.

One air traffic controller - with the help of an assistant - monitored the flight patterns of the two jets that toppled the World Trade Center, the employee said. He directed American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 - both Boeing 767 jets that had Boston to Los Angeles routes, the employee said.

The same controller handled Egypt Air Flight 990 when it crashed off the coast of Massachusetts in 1999, the employee said. Hijackers gained control of American Airlines Flight 11 around Gardner, Mass., the employee said. "American was just flying around, doing what it wanted," the employee said of the jet's approach to New York..."

NOTE:
There are articles around which point on new evidence, that the crash of Egypt Air 990 in 1999 was not an accident.

"It could have even broken the sound barrier for a while," said Hank Krakowski, who was director of flight operations control at United's system control center near O'Hare Airport in Chicago on Sept. 11.

Recent reporting has revealed other intriguing information about what was said and done on the flight. While authorities have said that the hijackers on the four flights had knives and box cutters, one passenger aboard Flight 93, Mr. Burnett, told his wife in a cellphone call that the terrorists also had a gun.

On a tape of a 911 call made by Mr. Burnett's wife, Deena, to the sheriff's department in Contra Costa County, Calif., Ms. Burnett said: "My husband just called me from United Flight 93. The plane has been hijacked. They just knifed a passenger and there are guns on the airplane." Investigators said they found no evidence of a gun at the crash site.

Earlier reports have said that a previously unidentified passenger, Edward Felt of Matawan, N.J., said in a 911 call from a restroom that he saw a puff of smoke and heard an explosion, leading some to cite this as evidence that the plane was shot down by the military to prevent it from crashing into sensitive targets. But the 911 dispatcher, John Shaw, and others who have heard the tape, including Mr. Felt's wife, Sandra Felt, say he made no mention of smoke or an explosion when he said, "We're going down."

Officials said the victims' remains were too badly damaged in the crash to tell whether anyone had been stabbed or injured in the struggle.

But Patrick Welsh, the husband of Deborah Welsh, the flight's purser, said he was told by United that one flight attendant had been stabbed early in the takeover. It was "strongly implied," he said, that his wife had been a victim, given her position in first class and the likelihood that she would have stood between the hijackers and the cockpit. "Knowing Debby, she would have resisted," Mr. Welsh said. "She didn't meekly submit to anything. She could handle herself."

Alice Hoglan, a United flight attendant who was phoned by her son, Mark Bingham, a passenger on the plane, while the hijacking was in progress, called him back at 9:54 a.m. and left two messages on his cellphone, urging him and the other passengers to rush the cockpit because the flight appeared to be a suicide mission. Her son, who she believes helped try to retake the plane, apparently never got the messages, but Ms. Hoglan later retrieved them from the phone company.

"Mark, apparently it's terrorists and they're hellbent on crashing the aircraft," Ms. Hoglan said in the second message, urgency in her voice. "So, if you can, try to take over the aircraft. There doesn't seem to be much plan to land the aircraft normally, so I guess your best bet would be to try to take it over if you can, or tell the other passengers. There is one flight that they say is headed toward San Francisco. It might be yours. So, if you can, group some people and perhaps do the best you can to get control of it. I love you, sweetie. Good luck. Goodbye."

More than six months later, Ms. Hoglan said, she did not expect to gain any consolation from hearing the voice recorder. Still, she wants to listen.

"I hope," she wrote in an e-mail message, "that as we families sit together and listen to the tape, we will, amid all the violence and confusion and ugliness, be able to recognize some brief familiar voices of our heroic sons and daughters, husbands and wives. I hope we can be assured that our loved ones spent their last half-hour engaged in the purposeful, focused and urgent labor of defeating the murderers aboard — distracted from the thought that they were living the last moment of their lives."

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New version of denied shutdown order of Cheney

Source: Democrats.com

With a Jet Fighter Near, Cheney Ordered Flight 93 Shot Down 3 Times Without Hesitation

According to the Washington Post, when Bush's plane took off at 9:55 am on 9-11, Cheney recommended military pilots be authorized to shoot down a civil airliner. "I said, 'You bet,'" Bush recalled. "We had a little discussion, but not much." "With Bush's approval, Rumsfeld passed the order down the chain of command. In the White House bunker, a military aide approached the vice president. 'There is a plane [Flight 93] 80 miles out,' he said. 'There is a fighter in the area. Should we engage?' 'Yes,'

Cheney replied without hesitation... The military aide repeated the question, this time with even more urgency. The plane was now 60 miles out. 'Should we engage?' Cheney was asked. 'Yes,' he replied again. As the plane came closer, the aide repeated the question. Does the order still stand? 'Of course it does,' Cheney snapped. [He] said later that it had seemed 'painful, but nonetheless clear-cut. And I didn't agonize over it.'" The Pentagon says it didn't shoot, but who believes them?

http://www.flight93crash.com/second-plane-at-flight93-crash-site.htm

This article is available on NEXIS.

Copyright 2001 Bergen Record Corporation The Record (Bergen County, NJ) September 14, 2001 Friday All Editions SECTION: NEWS; Pg. a18 LENGTH: 900 words

HEADLINE: IN RURAL HAMLET, THE MYSTERY MOUNTS; 5 REPORT SECOND PLANE AT PA. CRASH SITE; THE INVESTIGATION

SOURCE: The Record

BYLINE: JEFF PILLETS, Staff Writer

DATELINE: SHANKSVILLE, Pa.

BODY: As investigators continued to search for clues to the crash of United Flight 93, people in this Allegheny Mountains hamlet were talking about a parallel mystery that one man called "the damndest darn thing" he'd ever seen.

In separate interviews Thursday, five residents who live and work less than four miles from the crash site said they saw a second plane flying erratically within minutes of the crash of the Boeing 757 that took off from Newark two hours earlier Tuesday morning.

Susan Mcelwain of Stonycreek Township said a small white jet with rear engines and no discernible markings swooped low over her minivan near an intersection and disappeared over a hilltop, nearly clipping the tops of trees lining the ridge.

It was less than a minute later, Mcelwain said, that the ground shook and a white plume of smoke appeared over the ridge. "It was so close to me I ducked," Mcelwain said. "I heard it hit and saw the smoke. All I could think of was how close I came to dying. " About a mile north on Buckstown Road, Dennis Decker and Rick Chaney were at work making wooden pallets when they heard an explosion and came running outside to watch a large mushroom cloud spreading over the ridge.

"As soon as we looked up, we saw a midsized jet flying low and fast," Decker said. "It appeared to make a loop or part of a circle, and then it turned fast and headed out. " Decker and Chaney described the plane as a Lear-jet type, with engines mounted near the tail and painted white with no identifying markings.

"If you were here to see it, you'd have no doubt," Decker said. "It was a jet plane, and it had to be flying real close when that 757 went down. If I was the FBI, I'd find out who was driving that plane. " Late Thursday afternoon, federal agents who spoke to reporters at the crash site said "there was no evidence as of yet" that a second plane was nearby when Flight 93 plunged into a strip mine.

Earlier Thursday, FBI Special Agent William Crowley said investigators could not rule out that a second plane was nearby during the crash. He later said he had misspoken. He dismissed rumors that a U.S. military jet had intercepted the plane before it could strike a target in Washington, D.C. In testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, President Bush's nominee for chairman of the joint chiefs of staff rejected rumors that the military had shot down the hijacked plane.

"The armed forces did not shoot down any aircraft," Air Force Gen.

Richard Myers said..."

Source: http://www.post-gazette.com

The last thing i've read was that they even didn't play them the whole tape, so maybe doctoring is of no need.

But in 6 months a lot of things can happen.:)

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