Pinochet died many are in celebrations, but I am worried that LKy might just died like that also, without paying back for the unjust and wrong doings of his political live.

I generally regarded 4 models of dictators' ending:

Model 1 = died in power & past power to successor e.g. USSR Joseph Stalin. Whereby the people have absolutely no chance to seek punishment of dictatorial crimes.

Model 2 = died in exil e.g. Philippines Marcos. Forced to lose power but managed to escape away & hide safely.

Model 3 = died in detaintion e.g. Chilean Pinochet died in house arrest, Indonesian Suharto & Iraqi Saddam will soon join this group. But Pinochet didn't pay back enough Suharto as well.

Model 4 = died in the process of losing power e.g. Italian Benito Mussolini and German Hitler. Killed or executed.

LKy must NOT be allowed to die without his entire famiLEE LEEgime taken apart completely to expose all the falsehood and bluffs; accounting thoroughly accounting for all the injustice and corruptions.

Singaporean people MUST squeeze out EVERY DROP from LKy's so called Data Bank, to get to the bottom of UNTRUTH & TRUTH.

The entire world of future must completely understand LKy's system of greed & LEEgalized Corruption; Nepotism & Cronism; False Justice; False Democracy; False Freedom; False Economy; False Wealth & False Independence. The history must be truthfully informed of LKy's record of betrayals; treason against people / ethnic and state.

Although whichever way LKy ended, his falsehoods and crimes will still get exposed and recorded, but no verification to the bottom would be possible if he just died or lost conciousness from e.g. a brain stroke before we extracted his Data Bank. :-)

Many Singaproean pray for LKy's quick death, but I must stronglys suggest that they modify their prayals. Pray for LKy to lose power and fail to escape, and let the peasants get him alive and healthy. Let him pay back sufficiently before he meet god or satan.

Don't give LKy a cheap deal to just die like Pinochet.

The future Singaporeans for next few hundred years must be allowed to enjoy the confidence of owning and controlling our nation by people's civil rights and political rights - free from dictatorship & famiLEE LEEgime LKy style. The ending of LKY famiLEE LEEgime MUST thus be made in a way that would be well remembered and learnt by the future Singaporeans in our national history.

If LKy's ending went into Model 1 as given above, then the entire future Singapore will live in the shadow of USSR's Joseph Stalin where the people of USSR have no control and unable to do any about Stalin before he died.

We must do our part and DON'T hope for a cheap ending of LKy in Model 1. If heaven grant me the ability I would bring LKy back alive from his grave just to hold him accountable if he died like that.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061211/ap_on_re_as/chile_pinochet

Death of Pinochet shakes nation

By EDUARDO GALLARDO, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago

SANTIAGO, Chile - Some in Chile celebrated with champagne but for others, there was no joy in death of Gen.
Augusto Pinochet, only the sense of a final injustice committed by the dictator who brutally ruled the country for 17 years.
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For victims, Pinochet's demise dashed hopes that he would ever face justice for the torture and killings that were the hallmarks of his 1973-1990 regime.

When he died Sunday at the military hospital where he was being treated for a Dec. 3 heart attack, celebrations broke out around the Chilean capital. At a major plaza, hundreds of cheering, flag-waving people gathered to pop champagne corks and toss confetti.

Outside the hospital where Pinochet died, Chileans who believed he saved them from communism wept and hoisted posters with the general's image. Some chanted that Pinochet and his feared secret police were Chile's saviors.

"He will live forever in my memory — I love him as much as my own children," said Margarita Sanchez.

Police clashed with demonstrators who threw rocks and erected fire barricades that sent up thick plumes of smoke and blocked traffic on the city's main avenue. Tear gas and water cannons were used to disperse the protesters, many of them masked, who quickly regrouped.

Officials blamed the violence on a small contingent among the thousands of demonstrators who poured into the streets to denounced Pinochet's legacy. At least two bank offices were damaged.

The clashes spread past midnight to several working-class districts and police said 23 officers, including a major and a captain, were injured.

Deputy Interior Minister Felipe Harboe said there had been a number of arrests but gave no numdid not give a figure.

"The government makes an appeal to peace," Harboe said. "We do not want people to be affected today by facts of the past."

Pinochet overthrew socialist President Salvador Allende at a time when the U.S. was working to destabilize his Marxist government and keep Chile from exporting communism in Latin America. But the world reacted in horror as Santiago's main soccer stadium filled with political prisoners to be tortured, killed or forced into exile.

Although his dictatorship laid the groundwork for South America's most stable economy, Pinochet will be remembered as the archetype of the era's repressive rulers who proliferated throughout Latin America and, in many cases, were secretly supported by the United States.

Chile's government says at least 3,197 people were killed for political reasons during Pinochet's rule, but courts allowed the aging general to escape hundreds of criminal complaints as his health declined.

"This criminal has departed without ever being sentenced for all the acts he was responsible for during his dictatorship," lamented Hugo Gutierrez, a human rights lawyer involved in several lawsuits against Pinochet.

Lorena Pizarro, president of an association of relatives of the dictatorship's victims, called Pinochet genocidal and said it was ironic he had died "on Dec. 10, the international day of human rights."

But the office of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, Pinochet's staunchest ally in Britain, said she was "greatly saddened" by his death.

While some former U.S. presidents quietly supported Pinochet, the current administration of George W. Bush has good ties with Chile's free-market Socialist President Michelle Bachelet, whose father, a Pinochet opponent, died after being tortured in prison.

"Our thoughts today are with the victims of his reign and their families," said White House spokesman Tony Fratto.

Chile's government said Sunday that Pinochet will not receive the state funeral normally granted to former presidents, but only military honors at the Santiago military academy.

Recently, Bachelet said it would be "a violation of my conscience" to attend a state funeral for him.

Early Monday, Pinochet's coffin was transferred to the Military Academy.

The coffin, covered with a Chilean flag and Pinochet's military hat and...[Message truncated]

<Model 1 = died in power & past power to successor e.g. USSR Joseph Stalin. Whereby the people have absolutely no chance to seek punishment of dictatorial crimes.

Model 2 = died in exil e.g. Philippines Marcos. Forced to lose power but managed to escape away & hide safely.

Model 3 = died in detaintion e.g. Chilean Pinochet died in house arrest, Indonesian Suharto & Iraqi Saddam will soon join this group. But Pinochet didn't pay back enough Suharto as well.

Model 4 = died in the process of losing power e.g. Italian Benito Mussolini and German Hitler. Killed or executed.

LKy must NOT be allowed to die without his entire famiLEE LEEgime taken apart completely to expose all the falsehood and bluffs; accounting thoroughly accounting for all the injustice and corruptions.>

I guess he will have a state burial and media will blast about his achievements, if he dies within the next few years. That is he dies before his son.

Yah, and that means Model 1 already.

We must do what we can to prevent it.

I am willing to stand between LKy & the Jaws Of Death or Chinese Yan Lo Wang 阎罗王, to tell them that I won't let them have LKy until I am done with this old dog thief first.

:-)

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I know what you mean. But when LKy died just like Pinochet he would escape justice, and I will consider myself failing my duty to get him.

Let me get LKy to pay back for his crimes properly, before he is taken by death. He is already 84? Time is running out!

If this old dog thief just kicked bucket like that Pinochet then we have no chance to get him to pay back already, you see?

<If this old dog thief just kicked bucket like that Pinochet then we have no chance to get him to pay back already, you see?>

He is suffering now, dont you see?

Look at his grandsons, look at his family( internal stories) and so on. He may be a king in this red dot, but else where, he is regarded as a dictator. And his wife is on a wheelchair as said by some one? his mental angish is enough. of cos, if you believe in karma, some day, he will get it. Just that now he is enjoying his good karma created in previous life.

When do you think he will die?

He's in his mid-80's?

Well , we still could give due merit to him on his passing,  perhaps naming one of the IRs--Ah Yew IR . I am sure wooden would be glad to read this.

The powers that be already decided not to do this by rejecting Eight Wonder's bid which would have named the entire IR after him, ie. "Harry's Island"

<The powers that be already decided not to do this by rejecting Eight Wonder's bid which would have named the entire IR after him, ie. "Harry's Island">

It would be a funny irony if 8th Wonder did win the bid and get to name its Sentosa IR "Harry's Island".

LKY was once so vehement on not letting any casino operate in Singapore for decades.

Then he did the Pontius Pilate maneuver by claiming it's not his call but his son's call to decide on whether to have IRs with casinos operate in Singaopre.

<<not very possible at the current state>>

Well the so called <current state> is not something so rock solid at all, it changes every second, and can be change so drastically. Minds of millions of people can be swapt out of any sort of <current state> by some impacts. 911 that happened with few hour on one morning showed us an example.

Everything is possible at any time, but even after experiencing so much will people still not learn. If the world was told about 911 2 years before it happened, or had the world been shown a movie describing exactly what will take place at 911 before it really happened, how many people do you think will ever belive it could be possible to have it happen in reality?

99% of this world will be scaptical about it. On that morning of Sept 11, billions not millions of silly minds were swapt away from <<not very possible at the current state>>!

:-)