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From:  Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/3/2003 1:58 pm 
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The American Philatelic Society Web site indicates there will be second U.S. first day at Stampshow 2003, but doesn't say what it will be.

USPS spokesman Don Smeraldi tells The Virtual Stamp Club it will be a reprint of the 37¢ Flag stamp, this time printed by Sennett.

 
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From:  John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/3/2003 8:34 pm 
To: Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (2 of 21) 
 14428.2 in reply to 14428.1 
Any news of what format (perhaps PVA pane of 100, the only item left on the VSC 2003 calendar without an issue date?)


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From:  Bigalke  Staff DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/3/2003 9:36 pm 
To: John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (3 of 21) 
 14428.3 in reply to 14428.2 
It's probably a safe bet that this is the format, but we'll look into it.
Jay A. Bigalke, FPMG
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From:  John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/4/2003 8:45 pm 
To: Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (4 of 21) 
 14428.4 in reply to 14428.1 

The American Philatelic Society Web site indicates there will be second U.S. first day at Stampshow 2003, but doesn't say what it will be.

Did they say on which day and at what time?



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From:  Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/4/2003 8:50 pm 
To: John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (5 of 21) 
 14428.5 in reply to 14428.4 
I've heard Friday, and the "usual" time for headquarters-organized first day ceremonies at stamp shows (that is, at the partnership shows) is 12 noon. But I have nothing firm on either the date or time: Don't blame me if you have have to pay overtime charges for the helicopter dropping you in on the ceremony and taking you back out again!
 
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From:  John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/4/2003 10:27 pm 
To: Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (6 of 21) 
 14428.6 in reply to 14428.5 
No helicopter for me; I'm there for the long haul... :o)


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From:  Foster Miller (FOSTERMILLER)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/4/2003 11:26 pm 
To: John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (7 of 21) 
 14428.7 in reply to 14428.4 
I've heard Friday at noon.
 
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From:  Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  7/4/2003 11:49 pm 
To: Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (8 of 21) 
 14428.8 in reply to 14428.5 
So now everyone who had made plans to leave Columbus after the Cassatt ceremony and drive to South Bend to attend the Football heros ceremony and then drive back to Columbus to attend the Cachetmakers Bourse will have to re-think their strategy <lol>

I, for one, have re-thought it out, and will stay in Columbus to attend the two there, but I know others who stay with their original plans.

I guess that someone may even try to attend the South Bend at 8:00AM and try to make it back to Columbus for the ceremony at noon.

 
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From:  Prmcclure  7/5/2003 12:13 am 
To: Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  (9 of 21) 
 14428.9 in reply to 14428.8 
Chris,

The image of South Bend at 8:00 and Columbus at noon reminds me of a scene from a "Smoky and the Bandit" movie ... a long way to go and a short time to get there ... LOL

Besides, Indiana has those goofy time zones and I think SB is the same time as Chicago, which would cut an hour off the travel time. Making it a 3 hour trip not 4

Pete


Edited 7/5/2003 12:36:02 AM ET by PRMCCLURE
 
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From:  John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/5/2003 5:07 pm 
To: Prmcclure  (10 of 21) 
 14428.10 in reply to 14428.9 

Besides, Indiana has those goofy time zones and I think SB is the same time as Chicago, which would cut an hour off the travel time. Making it a 3 hour trip not 4

Most of Indiana stays on Standard time all year 'round. In the winter most of the state is synchronous with Eastern Time, in the summer, Central.



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From:  retsof3  7/5/2003 9:49 pm 
To: John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (11 of 21) 
 14428.11 in reply to 14428.10 
Most of Indiana stays on Standard time all year 'round.
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Most does, but while driving around the state we went through 3 pockets last week that were on daylight time. These are typically counties next to large cities in adjacent states. Standard time meant
that it was full daylight at 5:00 am. Ugh. Random time zones are on random county borders.

Since the standard time folks weren't used to changing time twice a year, many really couldn't tell me what time zone they were in. It was a hassle.

In Indianapolis, a new claimed "Federal" rule doesn't allow me to join my wife to check in at the curbside "check in". They expected me to drop her off and whisk the rental car away before I got in line. Fortunately, I hesitated just long enough to grab a boarding pass, get in the car, and go, before the security guard resumed his hassle. Bah.

 
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From:  Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  7/5/2003 10:17 pm 
To: retsof3  (12 of 21) 
 14428.12 in reply to 14428.11 
<They expected me to drop her off and whisk the rental car away before I got in line.>

No, actually what they expected you to do, would be turn in your rental car WITH your wife, and then proceed to check-in. I don't know of any airport, where security would want people stopping their cars at the curbside, check-in, and then park their cars. This would create a huge tarffic problem.

 
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From:  John (coilz)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 7/5/2003 11:13 pm 
To: Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  (13 of 21) 
 14428.13 in reply to 14428.12 

No, actually what they expected you to do, would be turn in your rental car WITH your wife...

Sorry, but I checked with the airport and wives are NOT included in curbside service.

They also cannot be unloaded in the Red Zone... :o)



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From:  retsof3  7/6/2003 9:04 am 
To: Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  (14 of 21) 
 14428.14 in reply to 14428.12 
<They expected me to drop her off and whisk the rental car away before I got in line.>
No, actually what they expected you to do, would be turn in your rental car WITH your wife, and then proceed to check-in. I don't know of any airport, where security would want people stopping their cars at the curbside, check-in, and then park their cars. This would create a huge tarffic problem.
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tarffic=sticky tires during rush hour

We usually drop off the bags at curbside check-in and then turn in the rental car. When traveling to national stamp conventions, we travel with 2 65 pound footlockers and 2 suitcases. Dragging that stuff around on a rental car shuttle bus is thereby avoided. It also avoids renting one of those $3 smartey carteys to drag the bags into the regular check-in.

We were flying a small commuter plane to Manchester, NH once. An announcement was made for everyone in rows 1-5 to move back in the plane. We figured correctly that they were rebalancing our footlockers in the baggage compartment.

Why don't they close down "curbside check-in" then if they don't want us to use it? We are only in "yellow alert" status, after all.

We now refuse to rent cars from Alamo. A couple of years ago they dumped me and the bags at a bus stop in the center of their parking lot. We didn't use curbside check-in that time, since it was a lot farther away, and time was limited. Fortunately, I was able to stay there to guard the bags while my wife went in to the rental counter. More recently, several different rental car places in Florida have "lost" our reservations, had closed counters after schlepping the bags in there, or in general had just been rude. It must be something about Florida. Several rating organizations don't like rental car service in that state either.

 
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From:  compexman  7/7/2003 10:34 am 
To: Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  (15 of 21) 
 14428.15 in reply to 14428.8 
>I'm afraid you'll need a police escort to get back in time. I checked out the route between the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend and the STAMPSHOW site in Columbus, and the computer spits out a 4 hour, 54 minute travel time.

>Don't forget that South Bend is operating on Eastern STANDARD Time, so 8 am there on August 8 is 9 am in Columbus! Even if one is able to complete all neccessary business in South Bend at 9 am local time (9:30 or 10 am may be more realistic), one would be hard-pressed to get back to STAMPSHOW in time for the scheduled start of the Cachetmakers bourse at 3 pm EDT.

>The only realistic way of attending the South Bend ceremony and a ceremony in Columbus (and that ceremony would have to be held at 1 pm or later, Columbus time) is via a private jet. This may not be as far-fetched as it may seem at first glance. It is not unreasonable to assume that some loyal Buckeye backers (with the resources to have a jet at their disposal) might want to mark the issuance of these stamps with a special cachet to commemorate Ohio State winning the national championship last year. Since you are there in Ohio, you might wish to make some inquiries regarding this idea. (If carried out, it couldn't hurt your efforts to win a seat on the AFDCS Board).

>Best wishes,
>RANDALL SHERMAN
>Board Member, American Ceremony Program Society

 
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From:  Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  7/7/2003 11:16 am 
To: compexman  (16 of 21) 
 14428.16 in reply to 14428.15 
Randall,

I don't always believe what the "map it" functions tell me regarding the travel time. And I certainlt don't believe it this time. I know that one can get from Kalamazoo to Cincinnati in about 5 hours. South Bend is about an hour south of kalamazoo and Cincinnati about two hours from Columbus (Yes, I know Columbus is further east) KNowing the roads, I would guess about 3 and 1/ hours. This is still a long hual, given the time of the two events and the time zone difference.

But as I said, I plan to stay in Columbus for both events there.

 
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From:  diowen1  7/8/2003 9:25 am 
To: Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  (17 of 21) 
 14428.17 in reply to 14428.16 
Hey Chris & Randall,
I live about 20 minutes from South Bend and will try to attend that ceremony. If you can think of a way that I can help you guys get your cancels let me know. I'd gladly do that for you.
Susan Stringer
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From:  Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  7/8/2003 11:49 am 
To: diowen1  (18 of 21) 
 14428.18 in reply to 14428.17 
Susan

I'll keep you in mind, when making my plans. Thanks for the offer. Could you send me an e-amil and we can discuss off-line (clazaroff@yahoo.com)


Edited 7/8/2003 11:52:25 AM ET by Papermaker1
 
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From:  Papermaker1(Chris Lazaroff) (PAPERMAKER1)  7/16/2003 3:43 pm 
To: Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS)  DelphiPlusMember Icon  (19 of 21) 
 14428.19 in reply to 14428.1 
Is there any additional word on the Flag ceremony (or relaese) at Stampshow?

I remember 1-3 years ago, when the Hannuahak and Kwanzaa were released at the Meagshow in New York on the second day of the show. I don't believe there was a ceremony (too bad, or why even issue it there), but there was a four bar FD cancel available for the stamps.

Since this was how the USPS handled it in the past, I assume that there WILL BE a four bar FD cancel available on the second day of the show for the first day of the flag stamp.

 
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From:  Foster Miller (FOSTERMILLER)  DelphiPlusMember Icon 8/8/2003 12:10 am 
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 14428.20 in reply to 14428.19 
The Flag reprint is actually a self-adhesive coil of 100.

Here's the surprise - the USPS put it on sale on Thursday, not waiting until Friday as rumored. So the first day of sale will be August 7. The USPS will NOT apply the August 7 Mary Cassatt FIRST DAY OF ISSUE cancel to covers that only bear the new Flag stamp. However, the small bullseye and/or STAMPSHOW pictorial cancels can be used.

 
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