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From: WEBELIAHU DelphiPlus Member IconAug-6 7:45 AM 
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       Killing...who said anything about killing? "Not knowing till after you die (your words)" need not mean killing, it is closer to an autopsy, one that may not take place for decades.

      That is only one possibility, and perhaps the least of them. How about incapacitating, or sterilizing, or changing the body to react to future releases of covid et al, or...remember thalidomide?...or...???

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From: WALTER784 DelphiPlus Member IconAug-6 7:51 AM 
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WEBELIAHU said...

How about incapacitating, or sterilizing, or changing the body to react to future releases of covid et al, or...remember thalidomide?...or...???

Yes, those are also other possibilities... but they are much slower and thus don't meet the timeline of the one world order czars!

For them... the quicker they gain control... the better for them!

FWIW

 

 

 
From: WEBELIAHU DelphiPlus Member IconAug-6 1:45 PM 
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         Understand that oriental culture does not think in terms of "quick." That actually gives them an advantage when people evaluate them as if they DO think like they do. The same with most terrorists. Many people think they will be reasonable, per THEIR OWN idea of reasonable, if only they are given enough stuff. I have seen people mis-evaluate genuine religious people, including Jews, for multiple decades. They have no idea what it means to be principled, even when the principles are evil (not observant Jews). Devout believers are principled, their are good principles, and other kinds of principles.

         That brings us to the Chinese. Their religion, in my opinion, is world hegemony, and they do not care how many lifetimes it will take to get there. To deal with any of religious people, and no one is more religious than atheists by the way, one first has to understand where they are coming from, and what they are capable of doing.

For example:

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From: WALTER784 DelphiPlus Member IconAug-6 11:51 PM 
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LOL...

FWIW

 

 
From: WEBELIAHU DelphiPlus Member IconAug-11 4:49 AM 
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August 11, 2021

        "Of the 6,275 new cases reported Monday, 44.3% were unvaccinated, compared to 54% who were fully vaccinated, and 1.7% who had received one dose of the vaccine...Among seriously ill patients, 36% are not vaccinated, compared to 61% who are fully vaccinated and 3% who received one dose of the vaccine."

6,275 new COVID cases in one day as infection rate soars 

6,275 new COVID cases in Israel in one day as infection rate soars

Number of seriously ill COVID patients rises to 394, while number of daily new confirmed cases nearly doubles.

The number of new confirmed cases of the coronavirus rose sharply Monday, along with the percentage of tests coming back positive.

According to data released by the Israeli Health Ministry Tuesday morning, a total of 6,275 new cases of the coronavirus were diagnosed across Israel on Monday, up from 3,421 a day earlier.

Of the 6,275 new cases reported Monday, 44.3% were unvaccinated, compared to 54% who were fully vaccinated, and 1.7% who had received one dose of the vaccine.

The percentage of tests coming back positive also rose, rising from 3.9% on Sunday to 4.84% Monday.

There are now 35,466 known active cases of the virus in Israel. A total of 648 patients are hospitalized with COVID.

Of those, 394 are in serious condition, up from 379 on Monday. That is the highest number since March 30th.

There are 87 patients in critical condition, including 64 on respirators.

Among seriously ill patients, 36% are not vaccinated, compared to 61% who are fully vaccinated and 3% who received one dose of the vaccine.

 

 
From: WEBELIAHU DelphiPlus Member IconAug-18 7:29 AM 
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August 18, 2021

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israel-to-expand-use-of-covid-drug-that-gets-88-percent-of-patients-out-of-hospital-676397

Israel to expand use of COVID drug that gets 88% of patients out of hospital

MesenCure, an Israeli COVID-19 treatment, has been approved for expanded use by the Health Ministry.

The Health Ministry has approved the expanded use of an innovative COVID-19 treatment that helped 15 out of 17 severe patients who took it to be released from the hospital one day after receiving their final dose.
 
The drug, MesenCure, has been tested by Rambam Medical Center as part of a Phase I/II trial. The ministry has approved allowing any interested Israeli hospital to take part in the Phase II trial and to use the drug for additional approved patients.
 
The goal of the expanded trial, which will include a minimum of 50 patients, is to confirm the safety and efficacy of the drug, which was developed by Bonus BioGroup.
 
MesenCure, which consists of activated Mesenchymal Stromal Cells (MSCs) that are isolated from the adipose tissue of healthy donors, was found to reduce inflammation and alleviate respiratory and other symptoms in patients suffering from life-threatening respiratory distress brought on by COVID-19.
 
Back in May, the company reported on 10 COVID patients between the ages of 45 to 75, all with severe symptoms. Ninety percent of them also had comorbidities.
 
The data showed a 40% decrease in lung inflammation from treatment – from 55% to 15%, as seen in chest X-rays, in the first five days after treatment. One month later, lung inflammation reached 1%.
 
Additionally, patients showed significantly improved respiratory function, with blood oxygen saturation increasing to 95% and lung functioning returning to almost entirely normal levels after only one month.
 

 
From: WEBELIAHU DelphiPlus Member IconAug-18 7:33 AM 
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August 18, 2021

        "Dr. Haviv’s observations, combined with the high vaccination rate, is more confirmation to Gateway Pundit’s recent reporting about the vaccine’s complete ineffectiveness against spreading the virus..."

Leading Israeli Health Official: VACCINATED Account For 95% of Severe and 85-90% of New Covid Hospitalizations; Vaccine Effectiveness is "Really Fading" 

This week Dr. Kobi Haviv, the medical director of Israel’s leading center for respiratory care, joined the country’s Channel 13 News to share an extremely concerning update regarding breakthrough cases among the vaccinated.

According to Dr. Haviv, the vaccinated account for 85-90% of all new hospitalizations and 95% of “severe” cases at the Herzog Medical Center in Jerusalem.

He explains how one infected patient will spread the virus to “a large number of people” and that it doesn’t just happen “here or there,” it’s happening frequently.

According to their health officials, the majority of  Israelis have been fully vaccinated, including 85% of those who are eligible. Out of the estimated 9.3 million citizens, 5.8 million have received at least one shot and 5.4 million are fully vaccinated.

Despite most of them taking the jab, the country has seen a quick spike in cases that has resulted in more daily positive test results than they had on the same day last year. On Thursday they had 3,843 new cases.

The Israeli Health Ministry used the data to justify tightening restrictions for their authoritarian vaccine passports. After their emergency vote on Thursday, citizens are now required to provide proof of vaccination, a positive test, or proof that they recovered recently from the virus to participate in most indoor and outdoor activities.

Dr. Haviv’s observations, combined with the high vaccination rate, is more confirmation to Gateway Pundit’s recent reporting about the vaccine’s complete ineffectiveness against spreading the virus.

Even though the number of positive cases reached the levels they saw last year, it has not translated into the same amount of hospitalizations. In fact, people who are being admitted to the hospital has dropped by almost half.

The fake news media is trying to credit the vaccine as the reason for the for the virus not being as harmful as it once was, but it is likely due to better treatments for the virus, such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, being used earlier and more often. 

 

 
From: WEBELIAHU DelphiPlus Member IconAug-23 3:45 AM 
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August 23, 2021

      "One of the main things that has happened in these 18 months of the pandemic is that fear has been the major weapon, which has really crippled people from thinking straight. It has isolated people and taught children to distrust other people: ‘They might be infected, they might infect me.’”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/holocaust-survivor-more-than-nervous-covid-measures/

Holocaust survivor: We should be ‘more than nervous’ about COVID-19 measures

Vaccine passports “are the gateway to a totalitarian surveillance state,” Holocaust survivor Vera Sharav said.
 

Holocaust survivor and medical activist Vera Sharav said recently on a podcast that we should be feeling “more than nervous” about the current state of public health measures, including lockdowns, forced vaccinations, and testing.  

Referring to the Nazi movement, Sharav said, “Fear is an extremely powerful psychological tool, that has been used by politicians always, the Nazis were particularly adept at it.”

Sharav was brought on to the podcast to discuss the host’s concerns about the direction in which she believes public health measures are going. They discussed a range of topics having to do with the response to COVID-19 taken by various governments. 

In the opinion of the host, Trish Wood, there are parallels between the narrative surrounding the COVID-19 situation and the narrative common in Germany under Nazism that was used to subjugate citizens. 

Vera Sharav agreed that it is logical to see similarities between that time and our time. Of particular concern to Sharav and Wood is the fact that doctors then, as now, were largely caught up by ideas that harmed people on a significant scale. 

The Holocaust survivor specifically mentioned eugenics as a topic that occupied doctors during the lead-up to the Nazi movement in Germany. “In the early part of the [20th] century the entire academic establishment was infused with eugenics, stemming out of Darwin.” 

Sharav believes that the Darwinian idea of “survival of the fittest” was adopted by public health officials. “What happens with a public health policy is that public health officials decide who shall live and who shall die.” This mentality is, according to her, what led to the tragedies that occurred in Germany. 

She is worried that the same mentality has become ubiquitous in present-day public health and medical discourse. “I have come to the conclusion that when doctors become aligned with government – corporations for that matter – they discard their moral and professional responsibility to the individual patient.” 

In her opinion, it is “nonsense” to suggest that sacrificing the rights of individuals is conducive to the greater good; she said this in reference to the accepted orthodoxy of locking down society to protect a subset of the population.   

“As public officials they talk about the greater good. Who has the authority to decide what is the greater good? … If the individuals are oppressed or relegated to third-class citizens … what kind of society is it? We are now at the gate of that.” 

When asked about whether or not she believed we are in fact on the cusp of a Nazi-like society and why, Sharav replied emphatically: “I absolutely do… One of the main things that has happened in these 18 months of the pandemic is that fear has been the major weapon, which has really crippled people from thinking straight. It has isolated people and taught children to distrust other people: ‘They might be infected, they might infect me.’”

 

 
From: WEBELIAHU DelphiPlus Member IconAug-25 6:42 AM 
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August 25, 2021

       "it is a variant with a high infection rate that can develop a resistance to the coronavirus vaccines."

        That could be incorrect. It may well be that that the new variant is resistant because it developed inside people who were vaccinated. One of the problems of vaccinating lots of people against this virus, among all the other problems, is that the vaccines push COVID against the wall, so to speak, so there is an effort by the virus to mutate strains that are not affected by the vaccines.

         Suddenly the vaccines don't work so well anymore. New vaccines will be developed to act on new variants, which will push the new variants against the wall...and the cycle continues. Meanwhile the vaccines can cause cumulative and devastating harm to a person that may not show up for a long time. These are reasonable possibilities based on what you will already find by top medical experts found in posts throughout this thread.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/312068

Dangerous new COVID strain found in Israel

Health Min. reports 10 cases in Israel of AY3 COVID strain, a more virulent offshoot of the contagious Delta variant.

The Health Ministry reported today (Thursday) that the first ten cases of the AY3 coronavirus strain based on the Delta strain had been found in Israel. The AY3 strain is based on the Delta variant, from which a number of further mutations have been found, including several considered more "virulent." Of those infected, eight had returned from abroad and two were infected inside Israel.

This week, a representative of the Health Ministry in the Knesset said of the strain that it "causes concern and will lead us to lockdown" and expressed concern about the possibility of it being discovered in Israel, since it is a variant with a high infection rate that can develop a resistance to the coronavirus vaccines.

The Health Ministry on Thursday morning reported that the number of severe coronavirus cases had reached 603.

At the same time, the Ministry reported that 7,856 new coronavirus cases were diagnosed on Wednesday, representing 5.50% of the coronavirus test results received.

There are currently 62,163 active coronavirus cases, and the country has so far seen 6,726 coronavirus deaths, including 17 who died on Tuesday and four who died Wednesday.

Nearly one thousand (994) coronavirus patients are hospitalized, including the 603 who are in serious condition, of whom 149 are in critical condition, with 106 patients intubated.

Earlier this month, the Health Ministry said that if Israel reaches 600-700 severe coronavirus cases, the country will need to lock down in order to avoid overwhelming the hospitals.

 

 
From: Len (AryehLeib613)Aug-25 8:53 PM 
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Why don't polio, typhoid, TB and other viruses mutate?

 

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