The Godless Commandments [reason 150.11]

Morality as Survival Tool - The Godless Commandments (2806 views)

From:	shadebabe	5/6/05 10:42 PM
To:	EdGlaze	(11 of 119)

150.11 in reply to 150.4

Hi Ed.

I like the alternative, sensible commandments. I e-mailed them around.

I've always thought the term 'godless' is so tacky and cold. I'm not any less because of my preferences. I prefer the term 'god free', meaning I chose the path through an informed decision to keep both my freedom and my peace of mind. If someone can choose to be child free they can also choose to be diety free, or free of any belief or practice that unfairly limits or enslaves them. We live in a multiple choice country. Let's go for it!

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From:	TAT_MAN	5/18/05 1:41 PM
To:	ERIC313	(12 of 119)

150.12 in reply to 150.10

I wonder if those are the first 2 tablets he's holding, before he smashed them, or the 2nd revised edition

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From:	TAT_MAN	5/18/05 1:48 PM
To:	EdGlaze	(13 of 119)

150.13 in reply to 150.2

If "the biblical stipulations were given by a civil deity establishing a civil culture called the Hebrew culture" then why were they adopted by the Jew-hating Christians. I love how Christians treat the Old Testament as if it's their's, or has anything to do with Christianity. If these laws were only relevant to the society that needed such harsh penalties to keep them in line, then aren't we about due for an updated version. It's only been a couple thousand years. Any idea when god's planning to publish a new edition?

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From:	ERIC313	5/18/05 2:51 PM
To:	TAT_MAN	(14 of 119)

150.14 in reply to 150.12

for all I know he was on a camping trip and is holding some old testament toilet paper.

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From:	ERIC313	5/18/05 2:55 PM
To:	TAT_MAN	(15 of 119)

150.15 in reply to 150.13

God is currently busy helping bomb Iraq back into the stone age - of course after that he will be tied up a bit with the NBA finals, U.S. Open , Indy, and the World Series.
He might just delegate the writing of the new commandments to the new pope. the pope is now more authoritative than god anyway. I can prove it. the pope influences far more people than the real god ( whatever that might be) does.

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From:	EdGlaze	5/18/05 4:00 PM
To:	All	(16 of 119)

150.16 in reply to 150.15

Ten Rational Commandments
by Laura Darlene Lansberry

Four of the original ten commandments serve no other purpose than to stroke the ego of El, a local tribal god of a small Hebrew tribe from centuries past. Other commandments are either too weak, too strong, or too vague. Ten Rational Commandments is the first "serious" attempt in thousands of years to update this primitive guide for human conduct.

Thou shalt not rape nor assault another person.
Thou shalt not molest a child, nor through inaction allow another to do so.
Thou shalt not strike thy lover in anger, nor through inaction allow thy lover to come to harm.
Thou shalt not beat, nor strike thy child in anger, nor cause thy children harm.
Thou shalt not take another human being to be thy slave.
Thou shalt not murder, nor stand idly and witness murder.
Thou shalt not steal, nor cause damage to someone else's property.
Thou shalt not lie and in so doing cause harm to another.
Thou shalt respect the right of others to have opinions, ideas, and thoughts that are at odds with your own.
Thou shalt keep thy beliefs private , not seeking to convert others, or force thy beliefs on any other, including your own children.

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The Golden Rule encourages people to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!" This allows christians, moslems, nazis, klu klux klansmen, and other ignobles to coerce, force, and otherwise attempt to convert others to their beliefs, because they would want to be converted if they were heathen, heretic, of another belief or a skeptic. Consequently it is a bad rule, a terrible rule, a heinous rule that encourages people to war with one another. Thus, as with the ten commandments, it must be replaced with something better, finer, and more noble in purpose.

Presenting The Platinum Rule:

"Do not unto others, that which
you would not have others do unto you!"

We are far better people, good people, when we refrain from doing harm to one another, than when we attempt to do good for one another. For when we attempt to do good for others, most often it is because we think we know more about their life than they do!

Edited 5/18/2005 4:18 pm ET by EdGlaze

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From:	EdGlaze	5/18/05 4:17 PM
To:	All	(17 of 119)

150.17 in reply to 150.16

The Standard Ten Commandments
Believed to have been written by the Long Island Secular Humanists in 1999
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10c2.htm

We, the members of the human community speak these words, saying.

We shall not limit freedom of thought.

We shall not cause unnecessary harm to any living thing or the environment.

We shall be respectful of the rights of others.

We shall be honest.

We shall be responsible for our actions.

We shall be fair in all matters to all persons.

We shall be considerate of the happiness and well being of others.

We shall be reasonable in our actions.

We shall nurture these values by word & deed in our children, family, friends and acquaintances.

We shall not limit inquiring or testing by their consequences, on any matter, including these Commandments.

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The Ten Commandments by Lord of Heaven

This set has appeared on a fascinating spiritual/mystic/humor/religious web site called Heaven Hell and Purgatory. Noting that the "first draft" of the Decalogue was excessively negative, the "latest edition" is balanced between prohibitive and motivational commandments:

The "Shalt Nots"

Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not lie.
Thou shalt not hate.
Thou shalt not oppress.

The "Shalls"

Thou shall love.
Thou shall create.
Thou shall seek knowledge.
Thou shall have courage.
Thou shall know thyself.

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From:	EdGlaze	5/18/05 4:22 PM
To:	All	(18 of 119)

150.18 in reply to 150.17

Except for #2 these are fairly reasonable.

Native American Ten Commandments
This has been published in many places on the Internet.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10c2.htm
The author is unknown.

Treat the Earth and all that dwell thereon with respect.
Remain close to the Great Spirit.
Consider the impact on the next six generations when making decisions.
Work together to benefit all humanity.
Freely give help and kindness wherever needed.
Do what you believe to be right.
Look after the well-being of your mind and body.
Contribute a share of your efforts to the greater good.
Be truthful and honest at all times.
Take full responsibility for your actions.

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Various graphics of these plus variations with different wording

YouTube - Native American Commandments

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NativeAmerican
10 Commandments

The Earth is our mother care for her honor all your relations

Open your heart and soul to the great spirit

All life is sacred treat all beings with respect

Take from the earth what is needed and nothing more

Do what needs to be done for the good of all

Give constant thanks to the great spirit for each new day

Speak the truth but only of the good in others

Follow the rhythms of nature rise and retire with the sun

Enjoy life's journey but leave no tracks

Edited 11/12/2009 12:37 pm by EdGlaze

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From:	EdGlaze	5/18/05 4:26 PM
To:	All	(19 of 119)

150.19 in reply to 150.17

Ellory F. Schempp, was the plaintiff in the case Abington v. Schempp. The case made it to the U.S. Supreme Court who declared in 1963 that Bible devotions in U.S. public school are unconstitutional. He suggests nine commandments:

You are a human, and neither Jesus, nor Mohammed, nor Buddha speaks for you. Take courage — you can live without a god.
Do not injure human beings or any animal; make reasonable exceptions.
When you see evil, make sure it is not in a mirror. Sometimes the enemy is us. Emotions are part of life. Feelings are good. Angry and fearful feelings are valid, but be circumspect.
Morality is about how you treat the life that has been given you — before you got asked. Once here, try to do some good and leave us a little better than when you arrived. There is no second chance.
Ideas are good. Some ideas are better than others. The best way to winnow is to seek evidence that supports an idea in a way that can be tested and evaluated. Covet not ancient ideas that contradict new evidence.
Love one another. Love is good, but trying. There is no god nor parent nor partner that loves you all the time, unconditionally. Keep not fantasies in your minds. Accept reality. Even when things look dark, there is lots of love around. Tap into it.
Sex is good. Have fun. Do not hurt another out of selfishness. Do not worry what sex others might have.
Honor thy parents, but remember they put their pants on one leg at a time.
There is great beauty in the world — on this Earth, in music, in the life around us. Take note for it and you shall be richly rewarded.

Edited 5/18/2005 4:53 pm ET by EdGlaze

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From:	EdGlaze	5/18/05 4:41 PM
To:	All	(20 of 119)

150.20 in reply to 150.19

Ayn Rand, in her book "Atlas Shrugged" wrote:

"If I were to speak your kind of language, I would say that man's only moral commandment is: Thou shalt think. But a 'moral commandment' is a contradiction in terms. The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments."

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The Forgotten 10 Other Commandments
Author Unknown
http://koti.mbnet.fi/amoira/religion/decalog5.htm

Thou shall not worry, for worry is the most unproductive of all human activities.

Thou shall not be fearful, for most of the things we fear never come to pass.

Thou shall not cross bridges before you come to them, for no one yet has succeeded in accomplishing this.

Thou shall face each problem as it comes. You can only handle one at a time anyway.

Thou shall not take problems to bed with you, for they make very poor bedfellows.

Thou shall not borrow other people's problems. They can better care for them than you can.

Thou shall not try to relive yesterday for good or ill, it is forever gone. Concentrate on what is happening in your life and be happy now!

Thou shall be a good listener, for only when you listen do you hear different ideas from your own. It is hard to learn something new when you are talking, and some people do know more than you do.

Thou shall not become "bogged down" by frustration, for 90% of it is rooted in self-pity and will only interfere with positive action.

Thou shall count thy blessings, never overlooking the small ones, for a lot of small blessings add up to a big one.

Edited 5/18/2005 4:44 pm ET by EdGlaze

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