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From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host12/2/18 10:17 AM 
To: Patrick Rock (PFR291) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (11 of 18) 
 5538.11 in reply to 5538.10 

We also need campaign reform - we can't allow wealthy corporations to buy politicians.

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From: Patrick Rock (PFR291) DelphiPlus Member Icon12/2/18 2:23 PM 
To: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon  (12 of 18) 
 5538.12 in reply to 5538.11 

Last time we had political "reform", it was to allow corporations to bid for officeholders of their choice.

Campaign reform is campaign FINANCE reform.

 

 
From: Song~ (_Song_) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host12/2/18 3:26 PM 
To: Patrick Rock (PFR291) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (13 of 18) 
 5538.13 in reply to 5538.10 
*nods* Can't have those peasants getting their say in things now can we?


 

 

 

 
From: Ishmael11212/5/18 1:15 PM 
To: Patrick Rock (PFR291) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (14 of 18) 
 5538.14 in reply to 5538.3 

A couple of weeks ago Paul Krugman wrote a column about the fact that some votes count a lot more than others.   His column was about Senatorial America.   He pointed out that Wyoming has the fewest number of people, about 600,000.  It has 2 Senators.   California, has the largest number of people, about 40,000,000.  It also has 2 Senators.

That is anything but equal representation.

 

 
From: heim61812/18/18 9:29 PM 
To: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon  (15 of 18) 
 5538.15 in reply to 5538.4 

It's not only the GOP....the Democrats have gerrymandered very effectively in Illinois.

 

 
From: Patrick Rock (PFR291) DelphiPlus Member Icon12/19/18 11:11 AM 
To: heim618  (16 of 18) 
 5538.16 in reply to 5538.15 

This is using the False Balance fallacy, saying that what's being done in Illinois by Dems is JUST AS BAD as what's being done in Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Wisconsin by Repubs, and that we should just call it even.  Since the Dems are doing a version of gerrymandering in one state, they have no right to complain when Republicans do the same thing to a greater extreme, combined with voter suppression, in a half-dozen or more states.

 

False Balance was a regular Republican game while Ted Kennedy was alive.  With almost EVERY new Republican scandal, some GOP pol would start shouting "What about Chappaquiddick?"

 

 
From: heim61812/19/18 12:12 PM 
To: Patrick Rock (PFR291) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (17 of 18) 
 5538.17 in reply to 5538.16 

"This is using the False Balance fallacy, saying that what's being done in Illinois by Dems is JUST AS BAD as what's being done in Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Wisconsin by Repubs, and that we should just call it even."

 

Oh, I never said that we should call it even.  I think it is horrible on both sides of the aisle. 

 

 
From: Patrick Rock (PFR291) DelphiPlus Member Icon12/19/18 12:24 PM 
To: heim618  (18 of 18) 
 5538.18 in reply to 5538.17 

But there is a matter of degree.  Democrats do not engage in voter suppression, and the efforts of two state Democratic parties (Illinois and Maryland) to effect partisan gerrymandering pales in comparison to what the Repbulicans have been doing for years.  (I note that I forgot to mention North Carolina, Texas, and Pennsylvania in their rouges' gallery).

 

If what is happening in Illinois (taking your word that it is) is bad, then what has been happening for a long time in North Carolina is plain evil.

 

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