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Someone commented "like rats abandoning a sinking ship" on one of the local repeaters today. Or like the plot of the movie "Escape From New York".
And when I was little, I'd never heard anything positive about New York from parents or relatives or such. It was always portrayed to me as a crime-riddled, incredibly expensive, overcrowded place that no sane person would ever go. So it went on my "no-go" list more than 50 years ago. And true to form, I have never in my life ever been closer than 710 miles (1143 km) of the "DC-NY-Boston corridor", and have not been closer than about 1879 miles or 3024 km within the past 21 years.
And of course, 9/11 was just more confirmation that New York was a place to avoid like the plague. Just like the graphic CGI and before that, optical and model / matte painting depictions of destruction in nearly every single apocalyptic movie ever made.
"See, I told you so"
A Mad Rush for the Exits as New York goes down the tubes
... Yet the fact that the rush for the exits continues to grow, even as new coronavirus cases have plummeted, suggests other reasons. Like the crime wave: The number of shootings per day, for instance, has doubled since last year. Other crimes are up, too. City and state officials have fueled crime, setting inmates at jails and prisons free and handcuffing cops, and they refuse to do anything meaningful to roll it back. Prosecutors, too, are declining to prosecute. Judges are letting suspects walk. ... Quality of life has plunged, as well. Even the owner of an Upper West Side hotel the city’s now using to house homeless derelicts has put his nearby mansion up for sale ...
I don't really know who played roles in the movie - I just remember seeing it on TV.
Anyway, the mass exodus pre-dates the pandemic by several years - but pandemic and near collapse of everything that made New York "attractive" - so many bars, restaurants, night spots, major stores, etc. may never re-open. The sky high taxes and jaw dropping cost of living and doing business has led many Fortune 500 companies to seriously re-think the idea of offices in New York. And it ultimately comes down to the bottom line.
So I expect to see this kind of exodus that the pandemic really stomped on the accelerator, to sail over the cliff like Thelma and Louise before it's all over with.
Like a snowball rolling downhill, it's going to accelerate from a mere 270 or so per day, gaining momentum as more and more people have nothing to keep them there any more - their business is gone, their rent is coming due, they haven't worked since March, and the neighbor downstairs was robbed and beaten and left for dead. Time to get out while the gettin's good
The city. Many New Yorkers are moving to places not too far away, because they still aren't aware that nearby suburbia is also a big risk in case of nuclear attack and pandemic, bio-terrorism, and of course the $20 a gallon gasoline that will be imposed under President Biden and a (D) Senate from taxes and prohibition on fracking.
Of course we in west Texas may be dependent on welfare when all our job opportunities vanish again like happened from 1982 through the early 1990s. It will be like what happened in coal country under a previous administration where a lot of people suddenly had no livelihood.
They'll relocate out here and consistently vote for the same stuff that sank their home city.
If there is heavy gentrification, yes.
Because that drives up the cost of living for those who weren't making $15,000 a month or more.
Yeah, they must suffer a lot. Only able to have a cleaning maid come in every Sunday, and only afford a Beamer while their richer friends have a Rolls-Royce or a Lamborghini. And they can only send their kids to the cheap private school or the Catholic parochial school instead of the Ivy League prep school.