• Finding findings/components

  • B.dette
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  • Posted: Oct 12 09 02:36 PM
I'm curious -- here’s a question for you: a group of us, sitting around beading, and discussing one of the newer books on bead weaving that we had all purchased. One person mentioned a piece with which she had fallen in love -- but warned us all not to make the same mistake. The reason: it contains a beautiful piece of lampwork as the focal piece. She had found the artist’s name in the book, where she was given credit, and upon contacting her was told, “Oh I only made that once and I doubt that I’ll ever make it again.”

OK - the bead artist and author of the book correctly gave the person credit and listed her web site -- for a reason, wouldn’t you think? What kind of business sense is this (the lampwork person)?

In the past some real ‘sweetheart’ here accused me of “whining” because I was unable to find a particular bead that was used in a class -- that didn’t mean zip to me, considering the source of the comment. (Besides, Jen would NEVER let that rude person get away with it!  LOL) I can understand patterns being published using very specific beads or findings, with references so that the reader can go there and purchase them. I can also force myself to understand (LOL) that some artists want you to use their ideas as a stimulus, get excited and kick off your own ideas. But what I really don’t understand, is when the bead artist creates a beautiful pattern, using something that is an INTEGRAL part of the work -- and then you are left hanging because that piece is not available.

There are a lot of maybes here:
• maybe the author did not check with the lampwork person to see if that piece  was indeed available
• maybe it is one-of-a-kind (not mentioned)no two pieces of lampwork are       EXACTLY alike - but there were not any others that came even close
• maybe the author and the lampwork person had a disagreement
• maybe the lampwork person was having a ‘bad glass day’, or didn’t appreciate all the publicity and business from being advertised in a lovely new book that I understand is selling like hotcakes

Most of the people present have had their patterns published, and one referred to a design of hers (we all knew it) that calls for a certain finding that is currently out of stock -- she is not publicizing that piece until she can be assured that if the pattern is published she has a source for the finding.

How do others feel about this?

Curious Carol
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  • JenVan74
  • To: B.dette
  • Posted: Oct 12 09 09:23 PM
This is a very interesting situation.  A few months ago, I received an email from someone asking me about the materials I was using in some of the projects I am publishing here on About.com.  While the materials weren't necessarily one-of-a-kind like the lampwork bead you mention in your post, they were items that could be considered hard-to-find in some places.  After that, I decided to include a resource list for all my projects and to only use items that could be found relatively easily in a bead shop or from an online retail source.  (If I got my beads and/or materials wholesale, I made sure to research where they could be purchased online retail, as not everyone has a wholesale license and some of the wholesalers have minimums that are quite steep.)

I also hear from a lot of beaders who say that they don't necessarily want to recreate each project exactly as it is published in book, magazine, or online, and they want to change it to make it their own.  In that case, they may not necessarily want to use all of the exact same beads and findings.

I wonder if in this case (and I think I know to which book and lampwork piece you are referring) the lampwork artist decided that she would not make any more of the pieces around the time the book was published.  It can take a very, very long time to write, edit and publish a book of beadwork patterns, and maybe in this case, the lampwork artist just decided to move on to other things. 

I do wonder about the lampwork artist, though, stating that she would probably never make it again.  I can understand making each bead a one-of-a-kind piece, but at the same time, if someone contacted me and wanted a dozen of a particular style of one of my lampwork beads, you better believe I would make a dozen of them!

I am curious to hear from other folks here on About.com what their thoughts are about this situation.

-Jen

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  • B.dette
  • To: JenVan74
  • Posted: Oct 12 09 09:54 PM
Thanks for writing, Jen -- I think you are saying essentially the same things I did - and thought.
I'm no stranger to publishing and/or checking sources thoroughly before using them.
I guess once in a while something just doesn't make sense.

I can see that you have given a lot of thought to this topic before today!

Carol
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  • Beki
  • To: B.dette
  • Posted: Oct 20 09 12:37 PM

Hey Carol,

First the disclaimer....if I start to sound snarky, don't take it personally.  =o)
I've been having some back issues for over 2 months now and I'm a bit grumpy. 

I guess I am of two schools of thought on this issue.  For myself, if I am writing an article for publication, I take in to consideration the ease of finding the items required.  However, because I am a bead vendor, 99% of the time, those would be supplies I sell.  And I think, when looking through many articles, 99% of the time the author has used product that they can either easily kit, sell themselves, or are commonly offered from their suppliers.

Only once in awhile do I see an article written where the item is obscure or one-of-a-kind.  For those that are like this, I think the author is assuming you will use their project as a springboard.  Replace this one-of-a-kind centerpiece with one that you love from your own stash or shopping trip.  Replace this ornate $100 clasp with one of your choosing.  More of an inspiration article rather than a repeat exactly type of project. 

And most times when someone has written in to a magazine saying they are having trouble finding XYZ item, the reply is usually...."Please consider the components used as an example.  Use items from your own bead stash to replicate and make this project uniquely yours."

Lisa Kan wrote her Bead Romantique book by giving her own color names to the seed beads used.  Within weeks she ended up having to publish a blog post with the suppliers actual stock numbers as the flood of requests for the exact items used was more than could be handled one on one.  Lisa had assumed that the reader would want to explore their own colorways, maybe use her colors as a guideline, but pick out colors that would be similar.  Amethyst AB for instance....how far off can you get from that?  Well, apparently far enough off that her readers would panic without the actual information.

While I have done some great business due to Lisa publishing that blog, and it certainly made my life easier in being able to help my customers locate the actual beads Lisa used, I still question why someone wouldn't want to experiment a little?  Do you really truly want a piece of jewelry that looks EXACTLY like the other peeps who bought the book?  Wouldn't you like yours to be unique?  The answer is always...."No, I don't want to take the time to figure out colors for myself.  I just want to bead the project!"

From this, it is obvious to me that there are those who only like to create an exact replica of what has been published.  However, if an item is discontinued, or out of stock for an extended period of time, would you be willing to take a close substitute?  If yes, then you may also be the type of beader who could adapt a project using a one-of-a-kind component.  If you're not willing to alter, than maybe that particular project isn't for you?  ;o)

As for the lampwork artisan, I know many of them that do not make duplicates of their beads, or maybe only make a few.  Just like a beader may not want to make 20 pairs of the same earring.  They get bored just the same as we would beading the same thing over and over again.  However, just because they only offer one-of-a-kinds shouldn't limit them from being promoted in a book.  It is the studio artisans that need the most support, rather than the mass producers who knock them off.  Just as it is the smaller family operated businesses that need the most word of mouth referrals, rather than the big guns who have the cash flow to pay for their own advertising. 

All that said, I do understand your frustration.  Sometimes I see a bead that I just WANT to own really badly!  Sometimes it just ain't gonna happen!  LOL

I hope whatever the project was that you'll consider adapting it to suit your needs.  What is most important in beading is that you love what you do.  Enjoy the creative process and then feel amazingly good about yourself for what you've been able to create. 

 
 
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  • B.dette
  • To: Beki
  • Posted: Oct 20 09 05:03 PM
Beki: how did you get so darn smart? Send me the name of your meds right now!  LOLOL
You certainly do not sound snarky -- because I agree with you and I'm not snarky either-:)

First let me tell you, it really wasn't about ME! Much as I may whimp and whine, I actually prefer, quite often, to go off on my own tangent. My closest beading friend is getting a little sick of my well-used comment:  "I don't know why this designer makes brain surgery out of everything! I can get the same look a lot easier by ........."
I laughed my butt off reading what you wrote about Lisa's designs -- her color choices were so beautiful that everyone wanted to do them. (me too!)

I had warned this person in advance that to ask a lampwork artisan to recreate the exact bead would likely be self-defeating. She is sophisticated enough to know but really must have fallen in love with a particular bead. I work backwards usually -- I fall in love with a bead and then search for a pattern that will show it off -- or invent one.

I guess I had thought this through pretty carefully, but was hoping to ignite a decent conversation here. Thanks for your thoughtful reply -- I always enjoy hearing/reading  what you contribute.

Carol
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