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It is the bible I don't believe in.

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I can accept the possibility of a god of creation. Jesus was a nice guy, but probably a con man. It is the stories of the bible I do not believe in. It is obvious men wrote these stories, not a god. It is not that god does not exist, but rather man does not know god. If man does not truly know god them all religions are just the fantasies of people. When man can say with certainty where and how the universe came from nothing we may have a better understanding of god. When man can explain WHY we evolve and HOW consciousness comes from non-living matter we may have something. As long as we cannot explain how consciousness works and where memories come from we have to admit there is more to reality than we know of.

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Heisenberg's uncertainty applied to god.

Started May-19 by HWPeeler (HPeeler); 14 views.
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From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

May-19

Throw the cat story out. What does Heisenberg really get down to?

If we can not know for certain that there is or is not a god then his mathematics says both are true that there is and is not a god. But math is not reasoning. Logically, if we cannot prove there is or is not a god then we cannot come to a logical conclusion on the subject.

A logical conclusion being eliminated we are down to reasoning as far as we can then forming an opinion we can support by arguments. We can only form beliefs we can support by reasoning. If you can't support your belief by reasoning of what value is your belief?

So, is there a god? All religions I find I do not pass basic tests of reasoning. So, if there is a god, man does not know it and is incapable of proving one way or another. The big question is "where does the universe come from and what keeps it going?" When mankind has tested and confirmed theories that cover this we will have eliminated, or defined, god.

Dismissing stories about god does not prove god does not exist.

"There is no reason to believe in a god." Not a bad conclusion.

"So then I can believe anything I want." The worse conclusion. Rationally explain why you have the belief you do.

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