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Is it a mental health issue?

Started Feb-20 by HWPeeler (HPeeler); 795 views.
Cindy (Cindy4Jesus)

From: Cindy (Cindy4Jesus)

May-18

You are so stupid. I rather be a religious anything than to follow your poor butt. Most Christians are good people, but were not standing back and allowing Liberalism to flourish. Our God is bigger than all of this. You will see for yourself one day who is really in charge and it is not some fowl mouth Liberal retard. 

Cindy (Cindy4Jesus)

From: Cindy (Cindy4Jesus)

May-18

Yeah, he needs prayer and  his head examined too. LOL... but keep praying for him to calm down and know that he is not in charge and never will be. God is in charge and still is until the end of time.

coldstone777

From: coldstone777

May-20

The Vegas shooter has been revealed to be a far right gun nut who ranted about Waco and Ruby Ridge.

Cruz was a Nazi

The Waffle House shooter was a Sovereign Citizen.

Kansas had some militia freakjobs plotting to bomb a mosque.

This kid in Texas seems to have flirted with white supremacism.

I don't think we have a gun problem. We have a problem of far-right violence that our government is doing nothing about,

I can't help but think that if any Dems started ranting about "Watering the tree of liberty" on Twitter and there was a spike in mass killings of civilians by some ANTIFA types, there would be Congressional Hearings

HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

May-20

So you would do away with the first and second amendments? We don't have a right to hold an opinion against the government? Or is violence and mental health the issue? Not all in those groups support a violent method. There are peaceful socialists and sovereign citizens.

If there were some violent Democrats should we judge all Democrats to be violent? Yes, there are National Socialists that simply want to promote America's concerns. That does not mean they praise Hitler and hate Jews and blacks.

coldstone777

From: coldstone777

May-20

I didn't say do away with any Amendment. Put simply, I think we should do what we would do if Black Lives Matter or ANTIFA folks started lighting up public places with high-caliber weaponry repeatedly.

You know why we don't really hear from violent left-leaning fringe groups like the Weather Underground and the Animal Liberation Front in the news anymore? Because when they started becoming honest to God problems, the government stepped up to the plate and did something about it. They didn't just sit around with their thumbs up their asses. 

 If a bunch of leftists were implicated in, in no particular order, a church shooting, a concert shooting, a school shooting, a diner shooting, a foiled plan to bomb an Evangelical church the way those militia freaks in Kansas were planning to bomb that mosque, in relatively rapid succession it would be the end of all left-wing activity in America or damn close to it.. You think Trump or Bush or Reagan would have tolerated a bunch of Union people or environmentalists constantly lighting up public places. Hell no.

Meanwhile, even under left-wing admins, the far-right is basically allowed to operate with impunity because Clinton backed off after McVeigh blew up a building, which was by far the biggest mistake of the Clinton Presidency. 

Bike (URALTOURIST1)

From: Bike (URALTOURIST1)

May-21

Are you afraid of the other gods out there? you say "OUR GOD" which means there is more than one.

Cindy (Cindy4Jesus)

From: Cindy (Cindy4Jesus)

May-22

MEANING the Christian God, there is only one God... sorry about that error.

Oomp (AstroLib)

From: Oomp (AstroLib)

Jun-2

Here's an idea I've been floating around for quite a few years.  Understandably , it's been reviled by the "molon labe" types. They don't realise that it could actually make guns easier to get, no background checks etc., but then the "pry my gun from my cold dead fingers" crowd doesn't seem to like doing things they find really hard- like thinking. 
Okay, so for Delphi I chop this thing down into two parts:  Between the ========== lines is the idea, and after that is a few FAQs.
If you like the idea, think it's worth developing, by all means spread it around.

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Gun control is currently a hot ticket subject. This is less about gun control than it is about enabling so-called gun-free zones" like schools, religious facilities, theaters etc. to be, and remain, gun free.

I would suggest legislation requiring all firearms manufactured and sold in the United States be fitted with a transponder chip similar to the one found in all modern car ignition keys.

The transponder would interact with scanners mounted on walls, fence posts, bollards, even trees in the vicinity of all entrances to gun-free institutions. The scanners would trigger electronic locks on the doors, sending the facility into a virtually instantaneous "lockdown” mode.  If a potential shooter can't get into his   preferred "target rich" environment, he can't do that much harm.

The scanners, in addition to locking all the doors, would also alert building security and local law enforcement of the possible threat, and could notify them of exactly where the threat is by virtue of reporting which scanner picked up the signal.

If he simply goes away, once the weapon is out of range of any scanner, the door locks revert to their previous state.  The situation is finished, no harm, no foul. The carrier simply unknowingly walked into a restricted area- a mistake.

If the carrier doesn't go away,   electronic signs (and possibly verbal recordings) at the entrances will  announce that the place is closed off to him,   building security and local police have been notified, and his continued presence constitutes trespassing or at least attempted illegal entry, both felonies. To defuse the situation all he has to do is leave the vicinity.

When he leaves, an "all clear" is transmitted to security and police. If they don't get the all clear within their own decided time frame (a minute or two), their next defensive measure, whatever it might be, can be activated. If they can convince the would-be shooter to surrender, the threatened situation is over, the shooter will face charges, but neither he, nor anyone else has died.

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There are numerous corollary situations that have been mentioned to me in the course of the bit of proselytizing I’ve managed to do. Here are a couple:

The shooter simply kicks in a locked (presumably glass) door:
He can't if the glass is properly mounted bulletproof glass.

Transponders can be easily defeated.
Despite a fair amount of research I've yet to find evidence of this.

Administration of the program creates another government bureaucracy at the taxpayer's expense.
There is no government involvement beyond what's necessary to ensure that firearm manufacturers are putting in the transponder chips.

I believe all gunsmiths (at least in Canada, maybe in the US too) ) are licensed.  It becomes their responsibility to scan  every  firearm, new or used, as it comes into stock.  If the scan comes up as "no transponder found" on a new weapon,  they must report this to the licensing authority, might even get a reward,  being  from a manufacturer that made itself subject to a hefty fine for illegal  production and sale.
 

This does nothing  towards "curing" the millions of guns currently out there.

True enough- it's really a bit like closing the barn door after the horse is gone. However it ensures that the "new  horses" (guns) won't try to  get out and into trouble.
And (here's where government expense comes in), state run chip implanting facilities  could  do the job, inserting the transponder and booby trap at as nominal a cost as possible.  Gunsmiths might be required to  submit whatever "chipless" guns their customers bring in.

-Oomp

 

HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

Jun-2

Not a worthless idea but please suggest a specific technology for use. Something that can't be defeated by casual home users. Keep in mind that farmers override the high tech devices on their tractors. My neighbor unblocks my Internet movie box so I can get more free movies.

I think every technology has a hack to defeat it.

Might defeating the system be a simple as shielding the gun from RF radiation?

Oomp (AstroLib)

From: Oomp (AstroLib)

Jun-3

>>I think every technology has a hack to defeat it.<<

I have to agree with that, but at the same time just think of all the viruses, trojans etc. that have shown up over the years,   hacks killed in short order  by Norton, Mcaffe, AVG, Eset and so on.  Of course that's a hack on the receiver side.  The sender side is more critical. Someone suggested  a gimmick within the gun itself that won't allow it to fire  unless it gets a clear signal from the transponder indicating that it's in working order. Following up on that idea, with scanners set to reply "gun free zone- disable firing mechanism"  would make the thing that much more effective.
I dunno- I guess I'm just insufficiently tech oriented to  be able to counterpoint. I do know that  a signal  blocker is easy enough in dealing with an RFID.  Those things can be rendered invisible to scanners by simply wrapping the gun in tinfoil, making a sort of "faraday cage". I don't think a " cage" stops  a transponder, witness  the ignition key: While most ignition chips are inside plastic key head covers, I had a  '96 Nissan that had an all metal key, with the chip inside it,  so what was effectively a faraday cage didn't work.  Inside an all metal key also says that these chips must be able to withstand a pretty significant amount of heat.

Let's  hope that somebody who's a lot more tech savvy  than us can come up with  refinement(s) needed to make it viable.

For every "yes" there's a "no", for every "no" there's a "yes".  The ones that should  be really hot to trot on  mass shooting abatement  are the life insurance companies. I wonder how many millions they pay out to  mass shooting victim beneficiaries  every year...

-Oomp

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