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Will Trump be out of office (for whatever reason) before Election 2020?   The Serious You: Politics

Started Oct-30 by ANNMTM; 450 views.
ANNMTM

Poll Question From ANNMTM

Oct-30

Will Trump be out of office (for whatever reason) before Election 2020?
  • Yes!7  votes
    30%
  • No!16  votes
    69%
Yes! 
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In reply toRe: msg 1
me (DENNIS4927)

From: me (DENNIS4927) 

Oct-31

I don't think the Senate will impeach him

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Staff

From: WWW3 

Nov-1

The House will impeach him.
The Senate will not convict him.
 

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Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk 

Nov-6

There isn’t time anyway before the election.

ANNMTM

From: ANNMTM 

Nov-6

Why do you say that?

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Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk 

Nov-6

A few reasons. First, anything government does takes time.  Second, they don’t really want to remove him. They want him to lose the election and they think that is the best way to do it.  No president has ever been removed from office through impeachment.  Richard Nixon resigned.  Third, they have to prove high crimes and misdemeanors to remove a president.  This vote now is just to open impeachment hearings so everything they have done up to the vote doesn’t count.  They won’t tell us that, but if you read about the process, it doesn’t  start until the vote.  The vote is not a vote for removal.  They have to do a lot between now and then, and they will run out of time.

Democrats are taking a huge risk, because polls are saying 52% of voters don’t want it.  The polls jump around but they are not 100% accurate. I would guess the percentage of likely voters is actually higher.  Most people want the congress to get things done, not spend all their working time on this when the election is now less than a year away.  In general, any Democrat in a red district who votes for it is in danger of being voted out.  

BWArtist

From: BWArtist 

Nov-14

Impeachment is supposed to kick in a higher more moral thinking beyond politics. You're supposed to think like an American first and defend our Constitution. 

<Most people want the congress to get things done, not spend all their working time on this when the election is now less than a year away.  In general, any Democrat in a red district who votes for it is in danger of being voted out.  >

And then there is the possibility that the foot dragging on shoring up our next elections might be considered an advantage to republicans.

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  • Edited November 14, 2019 10:51 am  by  BWArtist
BWArtist

From: BWArtist 

Nov-14

The senate will own their decision.

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk 

Nov-14

If it goes to the Senate, all senators are required to be present.  Those senators who aren’t doing anything except running for president are going to be at a huge disadvantage in the race, because they will have to stop all campaigning until it’s resolved.  The Democrats don’t have enough votes to impeach.

Here is a bigger problem. I watched as much of Taylor’s testimony as I could find.  He even said he’s not there to impeach the president.  He said That is your job. There wasn't anything impeachable in his testimony. They need to show high crimes and misdemeanors, through bribery. But the impeachment laws were written to stop a president from being bribed. If he is bribed, he cannot serve. That did not happen. Technically, all he did was ask for information. Money was not withheld in the end. So other than really hating him, the Democrats have nothing to impeach him on. Voters see that.  They are also going to be very angry if their candidate is a Senator who loses the nomination because they were busy with an impeachment that is never going to happen. Schiff isn’t thinking clearly.  The timing is bad, the Senate will never vote to remove the President and this will all be viewed as a WTF time in history.

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk 

Nov-14

The Senate may not even get to vote.  They are still not in Impeachment hearings. These are just an inquiry to decide if they are going to proceed.  Did you hear Pelosi today?  They know they don’t have anything. Their main witnesses fell apart yesterday.  Of course, they want to go ahead and vote, but politically it’s a very weak decision.  They can’t win.  If we should be angry with anyone, it’s the politicians who have played us all the way through this.

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