You are in a rural enough area that you must get some good mixes. Try a shelter in or near any major city. The shelter dogs will be 90% pits or pit mixes.

But would they do it if they couldn't get a lot of money? I know the breeder and have followed her online. At one point her poodle had a litter of 12. 12 X $1,500 is a lot. IMO, that is animal abuse.
I have seen dogs up for adoption at the Humane Society. There are way too many unwanted puppies available.

Right. No matter what, dogs must get along with cats especially when they have their food sniffed at by one.

Showtalk said:

Try a shelter in or near any major city. The shelter dogs will be 90% pits or pit mixes.

That's sad. And I'd suspect that because of the bad rap that breed of dog has gotten, a lot of them probably end up euthanized.

When I was a kid, we had a dog that had a more "eewww" relationship with the cats. If you dare, google the phrase "Litter box crunchies".

kizmet1 said:

12 X $1,500 is a lot.

O. M. G.

While some people wonder if they can keep the lights on, others are flaunting that they have so much money to burn they'd spend that much on a puppy.

It makes me think of the Chinese Sharpei craze about 30-odd years ago. Dog with incredibly over-sized skin so it's very wrinkled, a Yuppie fashion statement. Those who spend money they don't have, to buy things they don't need, to impress people they can't stand.

But then,. I guess I never saw any value in making a statement or flaunt wealth. But then I knew someone who probably had a net worth well over $10 million who shopped at WalMart, and the only thing that really was a tip-off that maybe they had a lot more means than the average working stiff, was that he held an Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic's license, and had an assortment of vintage aircraft he was always working on, sometimes shooing some of the cat collection out of a fuselage to install rivets, or would be sitting at a large workbench with engine parts spread out and being meticulously put into the engine block on a Tuesday, then on Saturday, crank up that particular airplane with the rebuilt engine, do some static ground tests, then taxi it out to take off to do a test flight.

Yes they can make a lot of money. It’s abuse if they are poorly bred, don’t get proper health screening and are physically harmed. Making money isn’t abusive, but intentionally breeding sick or animals with poor temperaments is.

Unfortunately even more get adopted into unsuspecting homes where they can maim or kill people or other dogs.

Well bred dogs cost around $2,000 and up.  A lot goes into a good breeding, including importing expensive parents who are proven workers and other things. I’m not sure all the costs but Sol will know.

maybe:

$10,000 for an imported sire. Dams are more often bred by the kennel.

$3,000 and 3 years to title a dog

$2,000 up for health and wellness care until the dogs are around age 3.

That is a minimum of $15,000 just for the sire.  If they get one litter of 10 at $2,000 apiece, that is a profit of only $5,000 and there are no guarantees at all with a first litter.  The dam may not produce 10 sellable puppies. What if there are only 3 in a litter?  What if there are 10 but 1-2 are stillborn, and others have defects so they can’t be sold?  If the breeder can’t sell a puppy they have to keep it.

That is just the tip of the iceberg on breeding.

If you have the time or interest, please read this whole discussion and comment.  Please no mauling pics.  I think we all get the idea about pits.