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Scientists: Fully vaccinated carry 251 t   The Healthy You: Health and Fitness Polls

Started Sep-12 by WALTER784; 1425 views.
WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Sep-12

Scientists: Fully vaccinated carry 251 times the Delta variant viral load as Alpha strain

by WorldTribune Staff, August 26, 2021
 
[Editor’s note: Updated on Aug. 31. The study cited in the article compares Covid Delta/Alpha viral loads in vaccinated individuals only, not the unvaccinated as was initially reported.]
Scientists have discovered that fully vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the viral load of the Covid Delta strain in their nostrils as compared to the Alpha strain.
 
The researchers, who detailed their findings in a paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found that while the jab moderates symptoms of infection, it also allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into pre-symptomatic superspreaders.
 
“This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally,” Dr. Peter McCullough noted in an Aug. 23 analysis for Children’s Health Defense’s The Defender.
 
The researchers who authored the paper found widespread vaccine failure and high rates of Covid transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
 
The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.
 
“They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another,” McCullough noted.
 
Some U.S. scientists have made the same observations. The CDC has confirmed the Covid vaccines have failed to stop transmission of the virus.
 
 
FWIW
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From: Showtalk

Sep-12

It’s no secret the Delta strain is much much stronger than Alpha but it doesn’t mean the vaccinated are getting it or spreading it.  They could be fighting it off.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Sep-12

Showtalk said...

but it doesn’t mean the vaccinated are getting it or spreading it.  They could be fighting it off.

Actually it does. There are numerous articles throughout the world where only vaccinated workers work in an isolated environment where non vaccinated people cannot enter. But yet the Delta variant spread to many of the workers and some of the actual patients in those elderly retirement homes. That means that a vaccinated person spread it to another vaccinated person and it continued to spread from there.

FWIW

Jammer (ABQJammer)

From: Jammer (ABQJammer)

Sep-16

The other thing to note is that, in places like India, where this "delta variant" supposedly STARTED, by using Ivermectin, they have virtually ELIMINATED Covid DEATHS, even FROM the "delta variant"!!  There are entire counties in India that have had ZERO DEATHS from Covid, AFTER they started using Ivermectin as a treatment!  WHY?!  Because Ivermectin is GREAT at REDUCING "prophylaxis", which is the TRANSMISSION and INFECTION of the virus!!  My question, though, is WHY are US Doctors being FORBIDDEN, on threat of LOSING their medical LICENSE, to prescribe Ivermectin to their patients?!!  Shouldn't it be a decision between JUST the doctor and his/her patient?!  Shouldn't the Doctor be able to decide, based on their "expertise", and on the information available in the medical community (which, by the way, INCLUDES studies done in OTHER countries), what is BEST for the PATIENT?!

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Sep-16

I don’t understand der stand why Iver,eating isn’t being used. There is a human version of the drug.  Same with Hydroxy. Do they want to prevent Covid outbreaks or do they want it to continue?

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Sep-16

Jammer (ABQJammer) said...

by using Ivermectin, they have virtually ELIMINATED Covid DEATHS, even FROM the "delta variant"!!  There are entire counties in India that have had ZERO DEATHS from Covid, AFTER they started using Ivermectin as a treatment!  WHY?!  Because Ivermectin is GREAT at REDUCING "prophylaxis", which is the TRANSMISSION and INFECTION of the virus!!

Yep... it's good but liberal news media calls it bad and the big tech cover up that information.

Jammer (ABQJammer) said...

My question, though, is WHY are US Doctors being FORBIDDEN, on threat of LOSING their medical LICENSE, to prescribe Ivermectin to their patients?!!  Shouldn't it be a decision between JUST the doctor and his/her patient?!  Shouldn't the Doctor be able to decide, based on their "expertise", and on the information available in the medical community (which, by the way, INCLUDES studies done in OTHER countries), what is BEST for the PATIENT?!

It should be... but it doesn't fit the Democrat's narrative so they quell it.

Concerning vaccinations, Biden said "This is not about freedom, it's about your safety".
Benjamine Franklin said "Those who give up freedom for safety deserve neither".
 
This is very much a consideration of freedom and an authoritarian government that is aggressively and unconstitutionally and now belligerently concerting control over every facet of American's lives including what medical procedures they MUST undergo. But over 41 million Americans have already recovered from Covid... I would conclude otherwise. Numerous studies have proven that natural immunity is more effective than the actual vaccine. If I were under 20, I would consider otherwise because the study in Israel has proven that young males, the risk of miyocondartis (however you spell it) from the vaccine is greater than the risk from Covid itself. 
 
FWIW
WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Sep-16

Showtalk said...

I don’t understand der stand why Iver,eating isn’t being used. There is a human version of the drug.  Same with Hydroxy. Do they want to prevent Covid outbreaks or do they want it to continue?

I do... because the Democrats and their liberal news media have been purporting it as a horse medicine and should not be used on humans as well as the big tech companies suppressing news that it is effective because it is!

FWIW

Jammer (ABQJammer)

From: Jammer (ABQJammer)

Sep-17

Showtalk said...

Do they want to prevent Covid outbreaks or do they want it to continue?

THAT is a VERY good question!  Why isn't ANYONE asking them about it?

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Sep-17

Jammer (ABQJammer) said...

Showtalk said...

Do they want to prevent Covid outbreaks or do they want it to continue?

THAT is a VERY good question!  Why isn't ANYONE asking them about it?

Because they would only lie in their response...

But if you think about it... if they prevented the outbreaks... they would loose their draconian controls! But if it continues... then they can continue their draconian controls...

Now that it's put into a better perspective... asking them would be mute because they would never admit to that.

FWIW

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Sep-17

They won’t appear on shows or in interviews with people who will ask hard questions.

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