Showtalk said...

Mail ins were sent to everyone who was not signed up, whether they wanted them or not. 

Not necessarily. They were printed for everybody who was not signed up, but were they really sent to everybody they were printed for?

Where is the accountability there? Who did they send it to? Did they receive it? Where's the accountability there? Ooooopppp... there doesn't seem to be.

Showtalk said...

That caused untold problems, which resulted in many people showing up at the polls and being told they already voted.

That's only because they were never sent the mail in ballots they didn't request. Somebody else filled one in without their knowledge using their name and address which is fraud.

Showtalk said...

Their unrequested ballots were somehow not delivered to them but to someone else.  No one knows how that happened.

I call bulls##t on the nobody knows what happened. Some people know what happened and how that happened... they're just not talking. But there too... is just more fraud. 

Showtalk said...

So they were given provisional ballots which are not the same at all.

And were their provisional ballots accepted and counted properly?

FWIW

In Az we have to request mail in ballots. Generalization again. To receive one you must be registered and you can contact the local party for help but you have to provide proof of citizenship and residency.  You can get on the Permanent mail in ballot request list but again you have to reregister every five years or each time you do an address change to your DL.

What state allows you to get a mail in ballot without any identification at all.  Even if they do, getting a ballot does not legally constitute fraud.

It was received in an E-mail from your Senator... Wendy Rogers... so contact her and get the official copy from her! Not hear say from me.

FWIW

Jeri (azpaints) said...

Can't get the one link to copy but the sherriff claims that special electors should have been sent to a nursing home facility to help patients vote who are mentally incompetent?  note the last sentence.

Don't worry about the link... I already read it over a month ago.

Jeri (azpaints) said...

Also...this is a sheriff recommendation to a county attorney and no charges have been filed.  Again...if it gets to trial we will have a better idea odf the validity of his claims.

Yes, if the county attorney who was paid off by Soros allows it to move forward. If the attorney doesn't allow it, that attorney will be complicit in cover up of fraudulent voting.

Note: I also read about 5 families who had one of their family members interned at that nursing facility and complained to the sheriff that their family member was in no way able to make any such statement. The nursing home's claim was that the family member drew a line on a napkin that indicated who she wanted to vote for, but the other family members didn't buy that story and asked the sheriff to further look into it. That's when not only one... but 4 other family members in that same facility reported similar.

There is NO reason the attorney should not allow it to go to court other than to cover up the fraud! So if it doesn't go to court... it proves fraud. If it does go to court... then let the court decide!

FWIW

Jeri (azpaints) said...

I'm just tired of everyone claiming that the existence of an investigation proves fraud.  Thats saying that if your state opened an investigation into you for tax fraud, RICO violations, criminal conspiracy the existence of an investigation itself proves your guilty without even being completed. 

I'm not saying investigations prove fraud. Investigations are investigations... and they will prove what ever they discover in their investigation. It might be fraudulent... and then again... it might not be fraudulent.

Georgia, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are still ongoing in their investigations. Arizona has completed their investigations and have handed in their report. There was fraud (per the investigation report), but higher ups in county election board and some higher ups in state are holding back on reviewing the results for some strange reason or another.

As the investigation has been completed in Arizona and the report forwarded to the local state government, there should be no reason with them moving forward with this, but they're still fighting this tooth and nail to keep the report from being officially accepted at the upper echelons of government.

Why would they be so reluctant to keep it from moving forward? If there wasn't any fraud, they should be more than welcome to allow it to move forward. If there was fraud, they also should be more than welcome to find out what the fraud was and correct it before the 2022 election.

There should be NO reason to keep it from moving forward other than to cover their own tracks.

FWIW

Jeri (azpaints) said...

In Az we have to request mail in ballots. Generalization again. To receive one you must be registered and you can contact the local party for help but you have to provide proof of citizenship and residency.  You can get on the Permanent mail in ballot request list but again you have to reregister every five years or each time you do an address change to your DL.

What state allows you to get a mail in ballot without any identification at all.  Even if they do, getting a ballot does not legally constitute fraud.

In AZ... not all states are the same as you yourself said. Many states you don't have to do anything and they print up a mail in ballot for you. Now whether they send it to you or use it illegally... well, there are several things there.

Are the ballots they printed real and can they be validate as real? Are there any duplicate ballots which only a forensics audit can discover? The Dominion machines just flag it for adjudication and illegally handled separately? 

Remember, some states threw away the envelopes so that they cannot be traced, other states discarded over 200,000 or more ballots and cannot show them to the forensics team.

When you have more ballots received that sent... that's fraud. If they only send 100 and receive 110... that's fraud with 10 extra. But when they only send 230,000 and receive 287,000... now that's fraud of a massive scale.

When votes are tallied and they show any number greater than the actual number of registered voters... that's fraud. In most elections, you never hear about 100% votes. It's usually 72%, 75%, 78%, 82%, 86%, 91% but rarely 92% or greater. And when you have 110%, 120%, 150%, etc...  well... you cannot have more votes than registered voters... that too is fraud.

Face it... fraud does exist and mail in ballots are fraudulently used... perhaps not as much in AZ, but I'm talking about mail in ballots as a whole... not just AZ... all the other 49 states inclusive!

But you keep coming back and saying not in AZ, but AZ also has quite a few problems which still need to have rectified as well. Namely the election board member's attempting to hamper the forensics audit in every which way to sundown! Left, right, front, back, sideways from all angles. Delay handing over the equipment. Erasing some of the devices before handing them over. Not handing over the backups they took before erasing it. etc. etc. etc.

FWIW

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FWIW

Something I would add, to make it easier for all people to get to the polls, would be to make voting 2 days and a National Holiday.  Maybe Fri and Sat.  And, like you, require photo ID. For those who truly cannot vote in person (military/traveling/disabled) THEY can request an Absentee Ballot.  

Elarepea said...

to make it easier for all people to get to the polls, would be to make voting 2 days and a National Holiday.  Maybe Fri and Sat.

Why limit it to just two days?

For large megalopolises like New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc. in person voting should be made available for early voting 1 week in advance. Hours might be slightly limited (i.e. 10AM-6PM) on most days, but for the last 2 or 3 days, those poll booths should be open from 8AM or 8:30AM until 10PM or perhaps a bit later.

Another consideration is to add a new national holiday so that it would coincide with the elections. That way... a lot of people won't need to worry about taking a day off.

Elarepea said...

require photo ID

Absolutely. Only the Democrats say that's racist. But you need an ID to do just about anything these days. Buy a pack of cigarettes, rent a car, buy an airplane ticket, collect medicaid/medicare, get welfare, rent a car, buy insurance, buy a car, buy a home, rent a home, you name it. Either they're all racist or the Democrats are full of racist s##t attempting to claim ID'ing a person voting is voter suppression!

Elarepea said...

For those who truly cannot vote in person (military/traveling/disabled) THEY can request an Absentee Ballot.  

Yep again. Absentee ballots have been around for ages and have been proven to work fairly well for the most part. No need to introduce mail in with all it's flaws and drawbacks and loopholes when Absentee ballots are and have already been available for quite some time.

The only reason to use mail in ballots instead of absentee ballots is for fraudulent purposes... otherwise, absentee ballots will work!

FWIW