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Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Nov-11

She’s right though. We didn’t learn our lesson in 2020 and we didn’t demand they fix the broken system that allows tended voting, no checks, and bad voting systems. It must be fixed by 2024 or we will win there. So I even care about cheating. We can blame ourselves for not fixing it.  I care about making sure cheating can’t ever happen.

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Nov-11

We need to fix everything about the elections.  Machines are only part of the problem. Al Frankenstein won 20 years ago when they “found” ballots in a trunk.  We are still allowing them to “find” ballots. It all needs to stop!

WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Nov-11

Showtalk said...

If Replicans lose an entire generation of voters it’s all over,we just don’t know it yet.  If we focus on theft we miss the biggest theft of all, the minds and votes of upcoming generation of voters,

I say that we to do both simultaneously.

We know they stole the 2020, and probably also stole the 2022. In 2016, their algorithms just weren't setup to make a successful swap of votes due to the sheer numbers that turned out. So, they modified their algorithms in 2020 as well as all the mail-in ballots (including 2000 mules) and other illegal activity of using markers instead of ballpoint pens, having purposefully misprinted ballots so that they would end up being adjugated and swapped there. While preventing the poll watchers from actually watching the poll. 

In 2016, Trump had more votes than any other POTUS in the past (including Obama). And in 2020, Trump had even more than he did in 2016... but the Democrat's shenanigan ended up having an old man who couldn't get even 100 people to show up at one of his rallies end up with more votes than Trump in 2020. It was rigged.

Now, in 2022, we have what should have had a strong turnout and should have taken a majority in both the House and Senate. We took the House and the Senate is still in a tossup.

If you want to think that they didn't steal votes in 2022, then they'll use the same technique to steal 2024 too.

Therefore, we need to do both... look into all the fraud in 2022 as well as how to better motivate our voter base including the younger generation simultaneously. If we can't do both simultaneously, they will steal 2024 TOO!!!

FWIW 

WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Nov-11

Dee (DLAINEDEE) said...

It was/is being stolen.  It is so obvious that even a blind man can see.

Anyone that doesn't believe it, either doesn't know about alternative news media, which I highly doubt, or refuses to see what the censored experts are saying on these news shows.  If they are being censored, that should spark interest to anyone that really wants the truth, to go find out what is being said and what proof there is.  Or they have stockholm syndrome and just can't wrap their heads around what is happening, and refuses to believe it.

I figured when he got into the computer aspects of the proof, you would totally and completely understand every thing he was explaining.  Where as us dumbed down Americans, the ones that can still critically think, do get it.

Well, think about this for a minute:

France has a population of 65,584,518 and they can count all of their votes the evening of the poll closing date.

The following data was taken from: https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/tables/2020-2021/state/totals/NST-EST2021-POP.xlsx

And then think about which states we still don't know who the final winners are? Of those states we don't know the final count yet, how many are Democrat or RINO run states? Oops... it was stolen yet again. And they will steal 2024 as well unless something is done to stop it.

Geographic Area Pop. 1-Jul-2022
United States 331,893,745
California 39,237,836
Texas 29,527,941
Florida 21,781,128
New York 19,835,913
Pennsylvania 12,964,056
Illinois 12,671,469
Ohio 11,780,017
Georgia 10,799,566
North Carolina 10,551,162
Michigan 10,050,811

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WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Nov-11

Showtalk said...

She’s right though. We didn’t learn our lesson in 2020 and we didn’t demand they fix the broken system that allows tended voting, no checks, and bad voting systems. It must be fixed by 2024 or we will win there. So I even care about cheating. We can blame ourselves for not fixing it.  I care about making sure cheating can’t ever happen.

The simplest way to stop the machine voting is to stop using the machines. That means the electronic voting machines, the scanners, and any and all other machines used. They are all programmed. If you don't use the machines, then you don't have to worry whether WiFi or Bluetooth is installed or not and/or whether they're turned on or not. You don't have to worry about somebody slipping in a USB memory stick. You don't have to worry about the machines flipping the vote or preventing one person from being selected. 

Other things that need to be rectified are invalid ballots (with things missing like dates, signatures, etc.), also signature matching is another problematic area because they're now taught to accept any signature even if it doesn't match the real person's signature. Mail in ballots continue to be a big fraud issue so do away with mail in ballots and only allow Absentee ballots. Likewise, ensure those who do use Absentee ballots actually have a valid reason to vote absentee. 

I've yet to hear about chain of custody problems YET (I expect to see them going forwards) from the 2022 election. Voter roll cleanup and proper maintenance going forward is yet another problem that has yet to be rectified. 

And there are probably many other things that could be done too. But getting rid of all the machines will reduce quite a lot of the problematic machines and their strange ways of acting up on voting days!

Manual (in person) ballots with absentee allowed for those overseas or invalid who cannot make it to the poll booths. Manual counting and double counting for accuracy checking, etc. would also work wonders.

FWIW 

  • Edited November 11, 2022 8:55 pm  by  WALTER784
WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Nov-11

Showtalk said...

We need to fix everything about the elections.  Machines are only part of the problem. Al Frankenstein won 20 years ago when they “found” ballots in a trunk.  We are still allowing them to “find” ballots. It all needs to stop!

Yep, machines are not the only problem, but ridding our use of the machines would remove quite a bit of the errors and problems that voting machines, scanners and other electronic equipment has proved to be faulty only on the election days. That would reduce over 50% of the problems. The other 49% or less of the problems also need to be rectified as well. I mentioned in a post above some of the other things that also need to be rectified.

FWIW

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Nov-11

Don’t forget Gen Z. People age 30+ voted conservative in record numbers.  People under age 30 who don’t usually vote got out and voted blue. The Democrats don’t need to cheat when they are already so far ahead of Republicans, they can’t seem to catch up.  Why can’t the Rs use the system the way the Ds do? rs are getting more minorities, so the Ds counteract by buying off the younger generation.

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Nov-11

Or follow Florida. They have a back up paper ballot for every electronic voter, so if there is a question they can count physical ballots. That eliminated all electronic cheating because it’s too easy to locate and people will be prosecuted for fraud. If they went to jail, any cheating would stop.

WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Nov-12

Showtalk said...

Don’t forget Gen Z. People age 30+ voted conservative in record numbers.  People under age 30 who don’t usually vote got out and voted blue. The Democrats don’t need to cheat when they are already so far ahead of Republicans, they can’t seem to catch up.  Why can’t the Rs use the system the way the Ds do? rs are getting more minorities, so the Ds counteract by buying off the younger generation.

Actually, buying votes is already illegal, but Joe still put out his illegal college debt forgiveness speech, even if it will never get passed, many of the younger people will believe they're going to get something.... even though they don't get a penny. But they'll forget that in 2024 and vote Democrat again.

Where the Democrats have the biggest lead with Gen Z people is their school indoctrination/brainwashing program that teaches capitalism is bad and socialism is good. The Republicans won't stoop that low, but we can counter and prevent the CRT and other brainwashing theories the Democrats are filling our kids minds with.

Republicans, by and large, are not really into cheating as the Democrats are. If they were, that would better help balance the current unbalance, but hey... two wrongs don't make a right. So, we need to stop the wrongs that the Democrats are using in their favor to really make it a fair election. Until their foul play is stopped, the deck will always be stacked in their favor.

FWIW

WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Nov-12

Showtalk said...

Or follow Florida. They have a back up paper ballot for every electronic voter, so if there is a question they can count physical ballots. That eliminated all electronic cheating because it’s too easy to locate and people will be prosecuted for fraud. If they went to jail, any cheating would stop.

Then you'll have states that don't follow chain of command for the paper ballots, many paper ballots (mainly Republican votes) will turn up missing, or they'll replace the ballots for Republicans with fake copies with votes for Democrats, etc.

If ballots turn up lost, missing or shredded... that county must do a re-vote on a later date. With strict penalties including jail time against those counties/states.

Voter registration databases also need to be closely monitored. (i.e. Day before election confirm databases, then on midnight of the day of the election, somebody swaps out the good voter registration database with another copy that has dead voters registered on them. Finally, at the close of polls, replace the dead database with the original one that was checked the day before elections. If you compare the database before and after the election... everything will look kosher, but if you had taken a database copy ON election day... you would find dirty work behind the scenes. The security of those databases must be strictly enforced with the utmost security available. 

There are numerous loopholes throughout our entire voting process that need to be scrupulously and stringently checked and fined/penalized with steep penalties at every turn. Example: For every misprinted ballot, a $10,000 fine and 5 months in prison minimum. So yes, if you misprinted 240,000 ballots, that would be a $2.4 billion fine and a 1.2 million months in prison (that's 100,000 years by the way)! That would stop all the misprinting problems we're having. Nobody would want to pay those hefty fines or jail times., etc.

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