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Started 11/11/21 by WALTER784; 193534 views.
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Dec-29

I just had an argument with people I’m very close with about Kari Lake. They said it was decided and it’s time to move on and she will never get another election or recount. They said they are tired of election arguing.

 
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Dec-29

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I just had an argument with people I’m very close with about Kari Lake. They said it was decided and it’s time to move on and she will never get another election or recount. They said they are tired of election arguing.

She actually won, but they stole it from her... similar to Trump. If you admit there was no fraud, then you're lying that she lost!

If you say she lost, then you're part of the problem.

FWIW

 
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The discussion went nowhere. It’s hard to talk when everyone is calling you delusional.

 
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Dec-29

That's when you stop arguing with them and just let them be wrong!

FWIW

 
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Dec-30

With all the evidence provided thus far, the judge who dismissed the case needs to be impeached!!!

BREAKING: Judge Dismisses Kari Lake’s Election Lawsuit on Christmas Eve – Lake to Appeal Ruling

By Cristina Laila
Published December 24, 2022 at 1:10pm

An Arizona judge on Saturday dismissed Kari Lake’s election lawsuit against Democrat Katie Hobbs.
 
Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson found Kari Lake’s lawyers had not proven Maricopa officials committed any kind of misconduct.
 
“My Election Case provided the world with evidence that proves our elections are run outside of the law. This Judge did not rule in our favor. However, for the sake of restoring faith and honesty in our elections, I will appeal his ruling.” Kari Lake said.
 
Trump-endorsed Kari Lake ‘lost’ to Democrat Katie Hobbs by 17,000 votes in this year’s Arizona gubernatorial election.
 
Hobbs, Arizona’s Soros-funded Secretary of State, oversaw her own election against Kari Lake.
 
Vote tabulators across Maricopa County were not working on Election Day.
 
According to testimony from a cyber election expert, the ballots were rejected by the tabulators because they were 19-inch ballots on 20-inch paper.
 
42% of the ballots (48 out of 113 ballots) examined by investigators in Arizona Election Challenge by Kari Lake were 19-inch ballots produced on 20-inch paper.
 
These ballots all jammed the tabulators on Election Day in Maricopa County.
 
The ballots were all printed at Runbeck Company, a printing corporation run by a very liberal Arizona family that strictly donates to Democrat candidates and causes.
 
The flawed ballots were handed out on Election Day when officials KNEW Republicans would come out in force.
 
For reference, here is a 20 inch ballot next to a 19 inch ballot:
 
DEVELOPING…please check back for updates.

BREAKING: Judge Dismisses Kari Lake's Election Lawsuit on Christmas Eve - Lake to Appeal Ruling (thegatewaypundit.com)

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Dec-30

I did but there is something to the fact that people are worn out on elections, so now, almost 2 months later, they are done talking about it. That is why it’s so hard to see any movement toward fixing things.

 
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Dec-30

That is what they were talking about to me. Her last lawsuit is gone so now what?

 
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Dec-30

She's continuing to peruse the issue; she hasn't given up. Just because one corrupt judge turns her down doesn't mean the battle is over.

Seek to have that judge impeached... she has all the grounds to do so... then let that judge defend his own decision!!! And if necessary, take it up to a higher court!

Just because a corrupt judge dismisses a case doesn't mean it's over! It just means the judge is corrupt too!

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There are too many corrupt judges.

 
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Legal analysis tears apart court that dismissed election lawsuit in Arizona despite obvious corruption

Tuesday, December 20, 2022
by: JD Heyes

(Natural News) A legal expert has slammed an Arizona court’s decision to toss out a lawsuit challenging the manner in which the November election was conducted in the state, while going on to praise a challenge filed by GOP gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake.
 
Tom Renz, an Ohio-based attorney and civic commentator, blasted the Arizona court’s decision to toss out a suit filed by Mark Finchem, a Republican who ran for Arizona secretary of state, describing the reasons for the dismissal as absurd, especially in the face of what he believes is obvious corruption.
 
“What I did not expect to find was corruption on a level that seemed to verify the outrage many people expressed after 2020. If the corruption of 2020 was as bad as the 2022 Arizona election people should have been outraged. Further, if the courts did anything similar to what was done with the Finchem dismissal it is not a surprise that people were claiming that there are issues with the courts,” Renz noted in his assessment of the court’s decision.
 
“As for the case, the dismissal was, or should have been, an absolute embarrassment for this judge to publish and frankly ought to be appealed to prevent a miscarriage of justice. I would need to write a book to cover all the mistakes in this ruling,” he noted further.
 
Renz said that in his interpretation of the judge’s ruling, the court appears to suggest that “Finchem’s team must prove fraud in their pleadings to move past a motion to dismiss,” which he called “absolutely absurd,” citing Arizona’s own Rules of Civil Procedure. What’s more, he notes that the court’s dismissal relied on old Arizona statutes that were rendered moot in 2020 when the state legislature passed several election reform measures.
 
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“The cases the Judge cited were published in 1986 and 1929. When a law is passed subsequent to a case ruling like those, it overturns those rulings if they are in dispute,” he noted.
 
Furthermore, Renz noted that all evidence presented in a complaint must be considered true “if well-pled,” and it appeared as though the Arizona court did not see the complaint in that way.
 
“The Court apparently also has no issues with possible violation of campaign finance laws as well as what could constitute a RICO and conspiracy charge by an elected official using their office to push or collude with a private company to block advertising by a political opponent in a race she was running in,” he wrote, adding:
 
I will not pain you with the absolute garbage the Court attempts to use to explain away what I simply cannot fathom being anything but misconduct. Throughout there is continued reference to the standards laid out in the previously mentioned cases that were overruled by statute but why let the law get in the way of the desired outcome. In each of these absurd decisions about the application of the facts alleged to the law regarding misconduct (which should not have occurred until trial – AFTER discovery) the Court applies the wrong legal standard. The proper standard according to the statute is “misconduct” not “gross misconduct.” 
 
“What happened in Arizona and particularly in Maricopa County during the 2022 election was indisputably unacceptable. The real question is, was it intentional and/or did it rise to the level of misconduct or violate some other aspect of the law,” Renz noted as he began to wrap up his assessment.
 
“The legislature has spoken and did not require fraud be proven in a complaint for a case to move forward. The rules of civil procedure, applicable case law, and common sense all dictate that this case should have moved ahead,” he added.
 
“Frankly, if the people alleged to have done wrong in this case truly did not do anything nefarious then I would think they would want a full and transparent investigation of what occurred by in independent court so they could demonstrate once and for all that the “election deniers” are crazy… unless they do have something to hide,” he said.
 
It should also be noted that a separate Arizona court has accepted GOP gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake’s lawsuit, and it will now move to trial, so there is an excellent chance the corrupt election practices in that state will be exposed.

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