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Climate Change farce...   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started 9/8/22 by WALTER784; 7755 views.
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From: WALTER784

Jan-8

This is from May 2021, but it's interesting...

Forest area the size of France has regrown worldwide since 2000, new study reveals

Sunday, May 23, 2021
by: Divina Ramirez

(Natural News) Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is at a record high. But it’s not as bad as it sounds. It’s actually great for trees and forests, as shown by a recent study led by the nonprofit conservation group World Wide Fund (WWF).
 
The study, which is part of the WWF’s Trillion Trees project, found that an area of forests the size of France has regrown around the world over the last 20 years, indicating that forest regeneration efforts are paying off.
 
Nearly 145 million acres of forests have regrown since 2000. In all, these forests can potentially absorb roughly 5.9 gigatons of carbon dioxide. This is more than the annual carbon dioxide emissions of the United States.
 
The two-year study was conducted using satellite imaging data and on-ground surveys across a number of countries. It identified areas of regrowth in the Atlantic forest in Brazil where a forest the size of the Netherlands, about 10.4 million acres, has regrown since 2000 due to conservation efforts.
 
Brazil has also sought to enforce more responsible forestry practices. Other factors, like people moving towards the cities, have also helped forests recover.
 
The researchers also found another flourishing area in the boreal forests of Mongolia where approximately three million acres of forest have regenerated in the last two decades thanks to the work of both conservationists and the Mongolian government.
 
Meanwhile, forests in Canada and parts of Central Africa also made a tremendous comeback. In fact, the boreal forests of Canada were found to be some of the world’s forest regeneration hotspots.
 
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Forests around the world are growing back in spite of deforestation
The WWF started the Trillion Trees project alongside the Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS) and BirdLife International in 2016. The project aims to protect and restore forests around the world.
 
Since its inception, the project has called for more support for forest regeneration efforts worldwide. It has called for an end to deforestation as well, especially in places like Brazil where deforestation levels are high.
 
Forests are important because they provide oxygen and resources, provide habitats for animals and protect against soil erosion. Forests can act as carbon sinks as well, absorbing excess carbon in the atmosphere. However, the world is experiencing an overall loss of forests at a terrifying rate due to deforestation.
 
But as the impact report showed, progress can be made no matter how degraded the landscape or how few resources seem to be available initially, likely due to the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
 
The idea behind it is simple: carbon dioxide is the main food source for plants. Therefore, increasing levels of it directly stimulate the photosynthetic rate of most plants. Fed, happy plants produce healthy seeds. In turn, these seeds will grow to become healthy plants that will soak up more carbon dioxide to survive and reproduce.
 
Fostering forest regeneration
 
In order to realize the potential of forests to improve the state of the climate and the environment, humans must tackle drivers of deforestation, said William Baldwin-Cantello, director of nature-based solutions at WWF. He added that they should support environmental nonprofits’ forest regeneration efforts as well.
 
Experts have known for a long time that natural forest regeneration is usually cheaper and richer in carbon than actively planted forests. They are also better for biodiversity, said Baldwin-Cantello.
 
Meanwhile, John Lotspeich, executive director of Trillion Trees, said the data included in the impact report can help conservationists and legislators better understand the ways humans can work to increase the Earth’s forest cover. The data also shows the potential of natural habitats to recover when allowed to do so.
 
But the fact that forests are regrowing on their own isn’t an excuse for humans to sit and do nothing, added Lotspeich. Deforestation is still claiming more trees than are regenerated.
 
In order to turn around the loss of nature, we must
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From: WALTER784

Jan-8

And a similar, more recent article saying the same thing from Dec 2022...

Study shows tropical forests can recover “surprisingly fast” if left alone

Monday, December 19, 2022
by: Zoey Sky

(Natural News) A study has revealed that naturally regrowing forests recover “surprisingly fast.” The study was conducted by an international team of tropical ecologists, including Saara DeWalt, a professor at Clemson University, and published in the journal Science.
 
DeWalt, who is also the chair of the College of Science’s Department of Biological Sciences, explained that nature “will take care of it if we let it.” She added that the restoration of tropical forests should rely on natural regeneration because it is the most efficient way of doing it
 
The restoration of tropical forests is also the most “ecologically efficient” and “economically efficient.” Tropical forests are essential not just to the people who live around them, but also to the planet. (Related: Forest area the size of France has regrown worldwide since 2000, new study reveals.)
 
Data suggest that secondary forests regrow naturally after almost complete removal of forest cover for anthropogenic use, such as for “shifting cultivation, conventional cropping or cattle ranching.”
 
To date, more than 50 percent of the Earth’s tropical forests are not old-growth, but naturally regenerating forests, most of which include secondary forests. In the neotropics, secondary forests cover at least 28 percent of the land area.
 
For the study, scientists analyzed how 12 specific forest attributes recover during the natural regeneration process and how their recovery is related. They studied 77 sites and 2,275 forest plots throughout tropical forests in North and South America and West Africa.
 
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DeWalt and her colleagues took part in the study by analyzing plots in central Panama since the 1990s.
 
Their findings showed that:
 
Soil fertility takes less than 10 years to recover to old-growth forest values.
Plant functioning takes less than 25 years.
Species diversity takes 60 years.
Aboveground biomass and species composition can take longer than 120 years.
 
According to Lourens Poorter, a professor at Wageningen University in the Netherlands and the study’s lead author, while it is important to actively protect old-growth forests and stop further deforestation, tropical forests can potentially regrow naturally in already deforested areas on abandoned lands.
 
These regrowing forests cover vast areas and can help contribute to local and global targets for ecosystem restoration, added Poorter.
 
Planting is sometimes necessary
 
If the deforested area isn’t too big or has not been farmed too much, a nearby forest could provide a beneficial and interconnected ecosystem that can help a new forest grow.
 
However, some circumstances may require reforestation. DeWalt said that planting will be required if there is no source for seeds, the soil is heavily degraded soils and there is no way for animals to get there.
 
In these cases, planting will be necessary.
 
DeWalt took part in another study where experts took a closer look into the selection of tree species to improve the success of tropical forest restoration. The study findings were released in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
 
The international team of experts studied recovery in functional properties of 30 tropical forests across North and South America. The researchers also measured seven traits that are crucial for drought tolerance and productivity.
 
Results showed that dry and wet forests have significant differences in their functional composition. While the forests follow different successional pathways, they become more similar in functional characteristics as the forests grow older.
 
Researchers compared plots that differed in the time since the land was abandoned and forests began to regrow, starting from zero to as long as 80 years ago.
 
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Jan-8

Forests regenerate but that doesn’t fit the narrative.

WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Jan-8

It doesn't fit their narrative... it destroys their narrative!

Deforestation is not the problem they claim, and reforestation grows back much quicker than many thought otherwise.

The more trees there are, the more CO2 they can dissipate and convert into oxygen!

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Feb-1

‘No scientific basis’: MIT-trained physicist slams climate alarmism in new paper

Electric cars, wind and solar power, hydrogen, battery storage, heat pumps – all have massive disadvantages, and are incapable of replacing existing systems without devastating consequences.

Chris Morrison
Thu Jan 12, 2023 - 7:22 pm EST

(The Daily Sceptic) — A damning indictment of the Net Zero political project has been made by one of the world’s leading nuclear physicists.
 
In a recently published science paper, Dr. Wallace Manheimer said it would be the end of modern civilization. Writing about wind and solar power he argued it would be especially tragic “when not only will this new infrastructure fail, but will cost trillions, trash large portions of the environment, and be entirely unnecessary.” The stakes, he added, “are enormous.”
 
Manheimer holds a physics PhD from MIT and has had a 50-year career in nuclear research, including work at the Plasma Physics Division at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory. He has published over 150 science papers. In his view, there is “certainly no scientific basis” for expecting a climate crisis from too much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in the next century or so. He argues that there is no reason why civilization cannot advance using both fossil fuel power and nuclear power, gradually shifting to more nuclear power.
 
There is of course a growing body of opinion that points out that the Emperor has no clothes when it comes to all the fashionable green technologies. Electric cars, wind and solar power, hydrogen, battery storage, heat pumps – all have massive disadvantages, and are incapable of replacing existing systems without devastating consequences.
 
Manheimer points out that before fossil fuel became widely used, energy was provided by people and animals. Because so little energy was produced, “civilization was a thin veneer atop a vast mountain of human squalor and misery, a veneer maintained by such institutions as slavery, colonialism and tyranny.”
 
This argument hints at why so many rich, virtue-signaling celebrities argue not just for Net Zero but “Real” Zero, with the banning of all fossil fuel use. King Charles said in 2009 that the age of consumerism and convenience was over, although the multi-mansion owning monarch presumably doesn’t think such desperate restrictions apply to himself. Manheimer notes that fossil fuel has extended the benefits of civilization to billions, but its job is not yet complete. “To spread the benefits of modern civilization to the entire human family would require much more energy, as well as newer sources,” he adds.
 
The author notes that the emphasis on a false climate crisis is becoming a “tragedy for modern civilization.” which depends on reliable, affordable and environmentally viable energy. “The windmills, solar panels and backup batteries have none of these qualities,” he states. This falsehood has been pushed by what has been termed a climate industrial complex, comprising some scientists, most media, industrialists and legislators. Furthermore, he continues, this grouping has “somehow” managed to convince many that CO2 in the atmosphere, a gas necessary for life on Earth, one which we exhale with every breath, is an environmental poison.
 
In Manheimer’s view, the partnership among self-interested businesses, grandstanding politicians and alarmist campaigners, “truly is an unholy alliance.” The climate industrial complex does not promote discussion on how to overcome this challenge in a way that will be best for everyone. “We should not be surprised or impressed that those who stand to make a profit are among the loudest calling for politicians to act,” he added.
 
Perhaps one of the best voices to cast doubt on an approaching climate crisis, suggests the author, is Professor Emeritus Richard Lindzen of MIT, one of the world’s leading authorities on geological fluid motions:
 
What historians will definitely wonder about in future centuries is how deeply flawed logic, obscured by shrewd and unrelenting propaganda, actually enabled a coalition of powerful special interests to convince nearly everyone in the world that CO2 from human industry was a dangerous planet-destroying toxin. It will be remembered as the greatest mass delusion in the history of the world – that CO2, the life of plants, was considered for a time to be a deadly poison.
 
Much of Manheimer’s interesting paper debunks many of the fashionable nostrums surrounding politicized “settled” climate science. It is an excellent read. Discussing some of the contrary opinions that debunk obviously false claims, he says it is “particularly disheartening” to see learned societies make definitive claims when so much contrary infor
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Feb-2

Researchers Claim Coffee Is Contributing To Climate Change

By Anthony Scott
Published January 19, 2023 at 9:00am

First red meat, then gas stoves, and now coffee.
 
Researchers from Canada are currently analyzing coffee’s “contribution to climate change”.
 
The new analysis was published by researchers from the University of Quebec at Chicoutimi in a piece titled “Here’s how your cup of coffee contributes to climate change”
 
In their analysis researchers concluded “Limiting your contribution to climate change requires an adapted diet, and coffee is no exception. Choosing a mode of coffee preparation that emits less GHGs (greenhouse gases) and moderating your consumption are part of the solution.”
 
In their study, the researchers compared the climate impact of traditional filter coffee, Encapsulated filter coffee, Brewed coffee (French Press) and Soluble coffee (instant coffee).
 
The study concluded traditional coffee has the highest carbon footprint.
 
— The Triune Times (@TriuneTimes) January 19, 2023
 
Many users on Twitter were upset about the new study.
 
Take a look at some of their takes:
 
 
— Tim Wood (@TimOnPoint) January 19, 2023

Researchers Claim Coffee Is Contributing To Climate Change (thegatewaypundit.com)

FWIW

biffaldo

From: biffaldo

Feb-2

According to the climate change group, aka Al Gore and company in the seventies and eighties predicted where I live in Florida should be under water now. Oh that's right we keep moving the goal posts. Maybe 2050. That will give me time to get my scuba gear.

  • Edited February 2, 2023 11:18 am  by  biffaldo
WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Feb-2

LOL...

They've been proven wrong so many times in the past.

First it was global warming... then the freeze came in and they called it global freezing, then that too was debunked and so they changed it to climate change, but the climate changes daily all around the world. But they still claim climate change.

I think the article https://forums.delphiforums.com/opinionpolls/messages/?msg=7694.103 above describes them as climate alarmists... which is quite an accurate description if you ask me.

The sad thing about all of this is that some crazies in our current government claim to be spending trillions to fix climate change, but I've yet to find a single instance of any of the monies they've spent thus far that really help reduce climate change. 

Bottom line: Climate changes daily and you cannot do anything to stop it, so stop wasting US taxpayer dollars on something that isn't necessary!

FWIW

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Feb-2

He will be cancelled.

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

Feb-2

I’ve heard coffee growing isn’t good for the soil but there are ways to mitigate it.

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