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In light of recent info are vaccines ...   The Healthy You: Health and Fitness Polls

Started 10/24/22 by WALTER784; 84772 views.
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From: Showtalk 

Sep-9

I know of an entire fire department who all got Covid at least twice.  My friend’s SIL was unvaxxed as were most of the other people there.  They all got Covid twice, maybe more because after the second time they stopped testing.  

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From: WALTER784 

Sep-10

Showtalk said...

I know of an entire fire department who all got Covid at least twice.

Could one or more of them have been vaxed? I ask that because:

Peer-Reviewed Study: 'The Higher the Number of Vaccines Previously Received, the Higher the Risk of Contracting COVID-19'

BY BEN BARTEE
3:01 PM ON MAY 30, 2023

The pre-print for this study, prior to the peer review process, came out late last year. It showed, in a nutshell, that more COVID-19 shots correlated to a greater risk of contracting COVID-19.
 
But the COVIDians predictably, in eternal denial as is their nature, pounced on the fact that the initial paper was a pre-print. They dismissed it for not being peer-reviewed, which is often described as the “gold standard” stamp of approval by The Science™.
 
Mind you, the corporate state media expresses no such criticism of pre-print studies that say what they want them to say about the alleged efficacy of masking, the wonders of Pfizer’s mRNA injections, etc. It’s only when a study counters the narrative that they pump the brakes.
 
Via McGill, February 2023:
 
Recently, some people have been spreading the idea that getting additional doses of the COVID vaccine increases the risk of catching the virus. The suggestion was made in an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal and repeated recently by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. The notion seems to stem from a preprint uploaded last December by researchers from the Cleveland Clinic. Opponents of vaccines have been using it to argue their case, worrying a fair number of people, if the emails I have received on the subject are any indication.
 
Well, now it is peer-reviewed, and none of the conclusions have changed.
 
Via Open Forum Infectious Diseases:
 
The risk of COVID-19… varied by the number of COVID-19 vaccine doses previously received. The higher the number of vaccines previously received, the higher the risk of contracting COVID-19.
 
I’m old enough to remember when the official story was that COVID-19 was a “pandemic of the unvaccinated,” and it was totally kosher for the POTUS’ handlers to send him out to the podium to issue barely veiled threats to the unvaxxed.
 
Pfizer and Moderna, the government, and every corporate state media outlet that deliberately spread vax disinformation should be opened up to lawsuits from every person who received COVID-19 shots (which are not and never were conventional vaccines) and subsequently got sick with COVID-19.
 
Consumers of sponsored-by-Pfizer media were lied to by all parties involved, and there must be consequences. The pharmaceutical companies’ ill-gotten blanket immunity from damages caused by their products needs to be retroactively revoked because they were granted on fraudulent premises.
 
Related: Teachers Get Their Due Two Years After School System Fires Them for Not Getting Vaxxed
 
I predicted when the GOP took over the House, despite candidates’ campaign pledges to earnestly pursue COVID-19 justice, that very little would actually get done on this front because both parties — particularly at the leadership level — are beholden to the special interests that perpetrated the fraud in the first place. That prediction has largely been borne out, with a few notable exceptions like MTG seeming to make a good-faith effort to right the wrongs.

Study: More Vaccines = More Risk of Contracting COVID-19 – PJ Media

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

Sep-10

I’m not sure but a fair number were not vaxxed because they already had it.

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From: Margie (ILovePhotos) 

Sep-15

My brother-in-law and sister are fully vaccinated.  They both have Covid.  My sister is really sick.

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From: Showtalk 

Sep-15

I hope they get better soon.

WALTER784
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From: WALTER784 

Sep-15

Sorry to hear about your sister. I hope she recovers OK.

My wife is vaccinated twice and had 2 boosters too, but she got Covid at work and brought it home and infected me... and I'm unvaccinated. 

Neither of us had any serious symptoms, but my wife's symptoms were slightly worse than mine.

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From: WALTER784 

Sep-21

28 people have voted and over half say Yes...

In light of recent info are vaccines worse than Covid? (See next post for details)
       
Yes  
15 votes (54%)
I don't know    
5 votes (18%)
No    
8 votes (29%)
 

28 people have voted so far

FWIW

 

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Sep-21

President Trump Addresses Vaccine Adverse Events for the First Time – Calls on Big Pharma to Disclose Safety Data Immediately (VIDEO)

By Jim H?ft
Sep. 5, 2023 7:45 am

In an exclusive interview with conservative political commentator and former Michigan gubernatorial candidate Tudor Dixon, former President Donald Trump weighed in for the first time on the rising concerns over adverse events linked to COVID-19 vaccines.
 
On Wednesday, Dixon told Trump about hardships faced by Americans since the onset of the pandemic. She questioned Trump on his stance regarding potential future COVID-19-related shutdowns.
 
“We had a booming economy with you before COVID. COVID stole so much from us. We lost our loved ones. We suffered major learning loss. Our kids really suffered mental health strain. Costs have gone through the roof. And now we’re hearing that Kentucky is shutting down two school systems because of COVID again. So people are panicked that these shutdowns are going to return. What happens in a Trump administration when COVID comes back?” Dixon asked.
 
President Trump made it clear that his administration would not be implementing shutdowns.
 
“Well, we don’t do shutdowns, for one thing, and it sounds to me like if something’s coming back, they blame everything,” Trump said, expressing skepticism toward the notion that the ongoing health crisis was solely due to COVID-19.
 
“They say it’s COVID because they love using the word COVID. If you have a flu season, they call it COVID. We had that then too, by the way. You had a lot of flu. You had a lot of this, and they like to say everything’s COVID. But let’s see what happens. I mean, there could be something happening,” Trump added.
 
In a direct rebuke of Biden’s handling of the virus, Trump said, “I always said Biden did a lousy job with COVID, and he did do a lousy job. We handed him over a great situation, and a lot of stupid decisions were made, especially with the spending of money and what they were doing.”
 
Tudor Dixon shifted the conversation towards Biden’s announcement to fund a new vaccine. She questioned Trump on the transparency of vaccine data, citing reports of myocarditis, blood clots, and other adverse events.
 
“Joe Biden just announced that he’s going to be funding a new vaccine. He wants everyone to get this vaccine,” said Dixon.
 
“And we’re hearing about a lot of complaints from vaccine injured, to say a lot. It’s like an understatement. Numerous pharmaceutical companies have refused to release their data on vaccine side effects. But we’ve seen cases of myocarditis, blood clots, and heart attacks. They’re all increasing. The research has never been released.”
 
“So will you demand that the vaccine companies, that the pharmaceutical companies release their vaccine data to the public so that we can see what they’re actually seeing about the side effects of this vaccine?” asked Dixon.
 
In response to Dixon’s concerns, Trump advocated for complete transparency from big pharma and vowed that we are all in this fight together.
 
“Well, they should do that. We’re all in this together, and they should be doing that,” said Trump.
 
“And frankly, anything new, and I hadn’t heard what he [Biden] said yet, but anything new has got to be looked at very carefully. But they should be doing that if they have facts. I mean, the facts are public. They should be made public immediately. People should understand that, and they should know what research is showing and what fact-finding.”
 
Trump added, “Don’t forget, when we started, nobody ever had any idea, even the word pandemic. It was 100 years ago -1917- that was the last time. And it was a horrible thing. One hundred million people perhaps died, but nobody thought that could happen again. It seemed like an ancient kind of thing – the plague. They talked about the plague, but we had our own plague. It was called COVID. It was called the China Virus.”
 
“What that Wuhan lab and what came out of there, because it came out of the Wuhan lab. And what that did to the world was unbelievable. Sixty trillion in damages, so many dead people, millions and millions of people all over the world. What happened there was just horrible,” said Trump.
 
Dixon also pointed out that pharmaceutical compan
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