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Gun free zones cause mass shootings   Knock Knock - Off Topic

Started Dec-1 by WALTER784; 277 views.
WALTER784
Staff

From: WALTER784

Dec-1

Get rid of them and 94% of mass shootings will stop!!!

FWIW

 

EdGlaze

From: EdGlaze

Dec-2

Mass shootings would probably decline but it still usually takes a good guy with a gun to stop the bad guy with a gun.

 


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WALTER784
Staff

From: WALTER784

Dec-2

Yes, but many culprits feel they are at an advantage when entering a gun-free zone with their own firearm.

If that school had a "our teachers are armed" sign posted outside, that would even further thwart future attempts at school entry to cause harm.

FWIW

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk

Dec-3

Then they would use knives or bombs.

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk

Dec-3

If teachers and school administrators were trained in safety at all those people would  never get past a gate or door.

WALTER784
Staff

From: WALTER784

Dec-3

Showtalk said...

If teachers and school administrators were trained in safety at all those people would  never get past a gate or door.

So then, we're down to two possible scenarios...

1) They were taught, but purposefully allowed the culprits into the school.

2) They were not taught. Find out why they were not taught and teach them going forward.

FWIW

EdGlaze

From: EdGlaze

Dec-3

If teachers and school administrators were trained in safety at all those people would  never get past a gate or door.

Not all school campuses and buildings are secure enough to keep out intruders and relatively few have armed staff.

Sooner or later some nutjob may decide to attempt a mass shooting outside the school at a time when many kids are waiting to board their school bus.

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk

Dec-6

Then what is a solution?

EdGlaze

From: EdGlaze

Dec-6

I have a discussion with links:

Strategies to prevent school shootings

 

Here is an intro and closing excerpt from the most recent article:

How to Stop School Shootings
by Lee Williams
30 Nov 22

In my humble opinion, if we truly want to stop school shootings we should harden the staff, not just the buildings, and we should focus on the other bad actors, too, not just the trigger-pullers. It’s time to start holding parents, law enforcement and the legacy media strictly accountable — criminally, morally and very publicly — for aiding and abetting these preventable deaths.

Keep in mind that more than three times as many people die each year from excessive alcohol use than from firearms, yet no one is calling to ban bourbon or vodka, because the booze-ban industry died on Dec. 5, 1933, while the gun-ban industry sputters on. Their misguided efforts have no chance of ever stopping mass murders because they are solely fixated on banning an inanimate object, while ignoring the person pulling the trigger and those who help facilitate the crime.

Nowadays, school administrators have focused on hardening their facilities, not their staff. Regardless of how secure a school campus is, Uvalde taught us that a determined maniac can always get in. Legislation that would allow teachers, staff and other volunteers to arm themselves — regardless of their state of residence — would save lives.

Another option that is operating with great success in Florida is the School Guardian Program. School Guardians are not police. They’re not School Resource Officers. They don’t teach classes. They’re not responsible for discipline or counseling. They don’t have office hours or other distractions. Their only responsibility is to shoot bad guys who want to harm kids.

Many of Florida’s School Guardians are combat veterans. They’ve proven they can use deadly force when it’s required. They’re issued a plate carrier, a handgun, and a carbine, and are trained (certified) by local sheriffs. They take their jobs extremely seriously, and they’re easy to spot. They patrol outside the school in the morning as kids are dropped off, and in the afternoon when they’re picked up. So far, no school with a Guardian has been attacked.

Gun-free zones have always been magnets for mayhem. It’s time to end this, put politics aside, and protect our kids.

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Related discussions:

Gun-free zones

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How to respond to an active shooter

 

  • Edited December 6, 2022 6:58 pm  by  EdGlaze
Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk

Dec-6

Thank you that’s an excellent post and article.

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