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Started Apr-1 by WALTER784; 542 views.
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Poll Question From WALTER784

Apr-1

Is preventing a future pandemic lockdown a good thing or a bad thing? (See next post for details)
  • A good thing7  votes
    63%
  • It depends (Please explain)1  vote
    9%
  • I don't know2  votes
    18%
  • A bad thing0  votes
    0%
  • Other (Please explain1  vote
    9%
A good thing 
It depends (Please explain) 
I don't know 
A bad thing 
Other (Please explain 
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From: WALTER784 

Apr-1

Washington Post Complains That Conservatives and Libertarians Are Preventing Future Pandemic Lockdowns

By Mike LaChance
Mar. 8, 2023 8:10 pm

The liberal Washington Post is deeply upset that Conservatives and Libertarians are standing in the way of future pandemic lockdowns.
 
This is an excellent reminder that the liberal media gleefully supported shutting down the United States during COVID and would absolutely love to see it happen again.
 
If Conservatives and Libertarians are standing in the way, they deserve our thanks and admiration.
 
FOX News reports:
 
Washington Post torched on Twitter after complaining health officials have limited powers: ‘Medical fascism’
 
A new Washington Post report slammed “conservatives and libertarians” on Wednesday for working to legally block future pandemic lockdowns and other epidemic related mandates after seeing their effects during the COVID-19 outbreak.
 
The paper accused them of engaging in a “populist rejection” of pandemic measures that have left American’s public health institutions “defanged” and unprepared for a subsequent pandemic.
 
Critics of the Post and severe COVID-19 protocols brutalized the piece on Twitter, claiming the public health institutions promoted “medical fascism,” which prompted the conservative pushback…
 
The article, by Lauren Weber and Joel Achenbach, made the complaint, “Not even the president can force federal agencies to issue vaccine or testing mandates to thwart its march.”
 
It then blamed right-wingers, saying, “Conservative and libertarian forces have defanged much of the nation’s public health system through legislation and litigation as the world staggers into the fourth year of covid. At least 30 states, nearly all led by Republican legislatures, have passed laws since 2020 that limit public health authority.”
 
The story hammered the point that “health officials and governors in more than half the country are now restricted from issuing mask mandates, school closures, and other protective measures or must seek permission from their state legislatures before renewing emergency orders,” thanks to conservatives.
 
Allowing everything to be shut down was a huge mistake which should never be repeated.
 
Bro, the Post is complaining that health officials won't have the power to forcibly quartine people and close schools in some states.
 
Imagine being that addicted to medical fascism. https://t.co/ckaFs8gup2 pic.twitter.com/2XqWbPvD2a
 
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 8, 2023
 
The liberal media claims it is not an enemy of the people, but they prove it over and over again.

Washington Post Complains That Conservatives and Libertarians Are Preventing Future Pandemic Lockdowns | The Gateway Pundit

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From: Showtalk 

Apr-2

I voted “it depends.”  Our original lockdown was for 2 weeks. That did not bother me. It extended too long and did irreparable damage.

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From: WALTER784 

Apr-3

The Telegraph (U.K.) issues headline calling for arrest of covid lockdown health secretary Matt Hancock

Sunday, March 12, 2023
by: Ethan Huff

(Natural News) Former United Kingdom Health Secretary Matt Hancock is in very hot water for his involvement in the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “pandemic” conspiracy.
 
The Telegraph this week published a headline calling for Hancock to be arrested and thrown in prison “for wilful misconduct in public office,” citing the recent U.K. Lockdown Files leak exposing Hancock’s criminal activity throughout the scamdemic.
 
More than 100,000 private WhatsApp messages, in case you missed it, were brought to light showing that Hancock was engaged in mass deception, fraud, and criminal conspiracy against the people of Great Britain. Here is what Allison Pearson, the author of the Telegraph article in question, tweeted about Hancock and his ilk:
 
“Even at the height of WW2, Government never used propaganda to frighten its own people. This lot did. Kids killed themselves, mental health collapsed. Unforgivable. Matt Hancock should be arrested wilful misconduct in pub office.”
 
Care-home resident families to sue Matt Hancock for crimes against humanity
 
Pearson explains in her article that Hancock lied, as many other politicians at the time did, about hospitals supposedly overflowing with covid patients. This was intended to scare the public while bringing the U.K.’s National Health Service (NHS) to its knees under oppressive lockdowns.
 
Children “with special educational needs” were also used “as leverage” by Hancock and other political cronies, Pearson reveals. This is part of why she hopes Hancock will be brought before a Select Committee for investigation and prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.
 
Brighteon.TV
 
“Personally, I would like to see him in jail for the vast hurt he has caused,” Pearson expressed about Hancock.
 
There are apparently a number of lawsuits in the works as well. The families of care-home residents who were impacted by Hancock’s criminality plan to sue him now that the WhatsApp messaging evidence has been unleashed.
 
“Today for the first time a major mainstream media (The Telegraph) in a Western country (UK) called for arrest and prosecution of health minister (Matt Hancock) for his Covid crimes,” said researcher and lecturer Dr. Eli David in a tweet about the matter.
 
“The first domino has fallen.”
 
The first domino has fallen indeed, and there are many more to follow. Hancock is just one covid crony among many who abused, tortured, and murdered members of the public with his medical fascism.
 
In the comments, someone wrote further that what Hancock and his ilk did throughout covid “was a despicable global attack by elite minorities in a class war for total control.”
 
Another wrote that what Hancock did amounts to terrorism in that the very definition of this word covers “the purposeful use of tactics meant to engender fear in a population to achieve specific responses, actions, etc.”
 
“Just exactly how are these people NOT worthy of domestic if not even international terrorism charges?” this same person asked. “I mean of course in addition to the charges of crimes against humanity.”
 
Someone else responded that just like how weapons are “deployed,” so was the control and fear narrative being peddled by Hancock and his ilk.
 
“Compliance, fear and submission of the populace was the obvious goal, which is CONTROL,” this person added. “This agenda, still being pushed is an evil attack on liberty.”
 
As to be expected, the American media, save for independent outlets like this one, is all but ignoring the Matt Hancock revelations and their implications for the rest of the covid criminals throughout the world who await justice.

The Telegraph (U.K.) issues headline calling for arrest of covid lockdown health secretary Matt Hancock – NaturalNews.com

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Apr-8

I just saw this. Other countries are folding like a stack of cards. How sentiment has changed.  I don’t see the interest in the U.S. in another lockdown, ever.

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Apr-20

Sweden Did Exceptionally Well During The COVID-19 Pandemic

BY TYLER DURDEN
FRIDAY, MAR 31, 2023 - 06:00 PM

No wonder the news media are totally silent about the data that show that Sweden’s open society policy was what the rest of the world should have done, too. 
 
Numerous studies have shown Sweden’s excess death rate to be among the lowest in Europe during the pandemic and in several analyses, Sweden was at the bottom...
 
This is remarkable considering that Sweden has admitted that it did too little to protect people living in nursing homes.
 
Unlike the rest of the world, Sweden largely avoided implementing mandatory lockdowns, instead relying on voluntary curbs on social gatherings, and keeping most schools, restaurants, bars and businesses open. Face masks were not mandated and it was very rare to see any Swede dressed as a bank robber.
 
The Swedish Public Health Agency “gave more advice than threatened punishment” while the rest of the world installed fear in people. “We forbade families to visit their grandmother in the nursing home, we denied men attendance at their children’s births, we limited the number who were allowed to attend church at funerals. Maybe people are willing to accept very strong restrictions if the fear is great enough.”
 
If we turn to other issues than mortality, it is clear that the harms done by the draconian lockdowns in the rest of the world have been immense in all sorts of ways.
 
For any intervention in healthcare, we require proof that the benefits exceed the harms. This principle was one of the first and most important victims of the pandemic. Politicians all over the world panicked and lost their heads, and the randomised trials we so badly needed to guide us were never carried out.
 
We should abbreviate the great pandemic to the great panic.
 
In my book, “The Chinese virus: Killed millions and scientific freedom,” from March 2022, I have a section about lockdowns.
 
Lockdown, a questionable intervention
 
The reborn intolerance toward alternative ideas has been particularly acrimonious in the debate about lockdowns.
 
There are two main ways to respond to viral pandemics, described in two publications that both came out in October 2020.
 
The Great Barrington Declaration is only 514 words, with no references. It emphasizes the devastating effects of lockdowns on short- and long-term public health, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed. Arguing that for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than influenza, it suggests that those at minimal risk of death should live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection and to establish herd immunity in the society.
 
It recommends focused protection of the vulnerable. Nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing for COVID-19 of other staff and all visitors. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home and should meet family members outside when possible.
 
Staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone. Schools, universities, sports facilities, restaurants, cultural activities, and other businesses should be open. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home.
 
I have not found anything in the Declaration to be factually wrong.
 
The other publication is the John Snow Memorandum, which came out two weeks later.  Its 945 words are seriously manipulative. There are factual inaccuracies, and several of its 8 references are to highly unreliable science. The authors claim that SARS-CoV-2 has high infectivity, and that the infection fatality rate of COVID-19 is several times higher than that of seasonal influenza.
 
This is not correct (see Chapter 5), and the two references the authors use are to studies using modelling, which are highly bias-prone.
 
They also claim that transmission of the virus can be mitigated through the use of face masks, with no reference, even though this was, and still is, a highly doubtful claim.
 
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From: Showtalk 

Apr-20

They also restricted travel from other countries.

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From: WALTER784 

Apr-20

So did many other countries including Japan and the US. But they didn't have lockdowns nor mask mandates.

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