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Started May-26 by Showtalk; 2488 views.
Showtalk said:

I was approached by a sketchy man in a somewhat empty parking lot who tried to get me to roll down the window, but he was acting irrationally.

We get a lot of those kind of situations out here during the oil boom, and just yesterday I saw some homeless looking dude gesticulating wildly while apparently shouting at the air. At first I was thinking some kind of medical issue the way his arms and hands and head bobbing back and forth like how a bird walks, seemed kind of spastic.

Then the next thought was "schizophrenic off his meds" and veered a lane over just in case he decided to wander into traffic or something.

These days because of the number of and aggressiveness of panhandlers on the street, I have been known to skip shopping or gas stops and keep flowing with traffic if I see one of them accosting people at the gas pump or something.

Mostly because there's no telling what they might be high on, or what withdrawal symptoms they might be going through at that moment.

Showtalk said:

Each time, I backed out so they could leave. Finally, I decided I would be there all day so I started to enter the aisle again and a man pushed in front of me, so I let him pass and then followed him. Then he turned around and came toward me. I asked him to please maintain 6’ between us and stop walking toward me. He went ballistic and started calling me names and told me to get out of his way.

Wonder what he'd have done if you'd have coughed or sneezed at him in reply to his saying to get out of his way.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

May-28

Oh, she won't necessarily learn better behavior; she may edge into a "deserve revenge" mode.

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

May-28

She was extreme.  Now we have seen a real Karen in action.

Jeri (azpaints) said:

Oh, she won't necessarily learn better behavior; she may edge into a "deserve revenge" mode.

Yeah, those kind often do. Trying to find another story like this where Karen absolutely would not back down and accept she was wrong, even when a judge told her so - -went to jail a couple of times for contempt of court, then violated a couple of protective orders, got caught on camera committing a couple of felonies (criminal mischief, automobile burglary, federal mail tampering), and finally went to prison.

But of course such complete off the rails escalations are fortunately rare, which is why they make headlines and of course stories go viral online. It's the next generation version of watching Judge Judy, or for the more over the top performances, Jerry Springer or Maury Povich. (sadly I know who they are from hauling someone to numerous doctor appointments over the past couple of decades, when they had a TV on in the waiting room in the middle of the day).

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

May-28

We can have compassion for people and still not want to be on the receiving end of their behavior.  I was out with friends in a patio cafe last year when a homeless woman came over and demanded on give up her coffee and another give you a pastry.  She wanted their food, not money or fresh food.  She was very angry and shaking her fist.  Then she said a woman was racist. The poor woman is 96 1/2 and just wanted to eat her breakfast in peace.  So I stood up and pointed inside the coffee place and told her they might give free food to her if she goes in and asks.  I wasn’t sure but sometimes those places have a small store of freebies they don’t advertise for situations like that, as long as they aren't overrun.  It’s an area that has very few homeless people on the streets because they have a good shelter system and they sweep them up and send them to the shelters. Then I left and went to the market next door. I told a friend who works there about the interaction and was told they must call the police if there is a chance someone might get violent.  I didn’t see violence there, but I could have been mistaken.

Yep. That one is a good contender for "most extreme Karen of the week".

Showtalk said:

We can have compassion for people and still not want to be on the receiving end of their behavior.

Precisely. I tend to be rather avoidant by nature anyway, precisely because some of those people can be incredibly aggressive and intrusive.

One of the stunts they do out here is they will use a vehicle and an empty gas can as a prop, and beg for gas money to get home, or to a job interview. The cover story morphs as time goes by, and often they don't realize that I remember seeing them a month ago, while I was in a different car or truck, and saw the exact same situation.

It's one thing when someone is truly in a bad situation. It's another when they are in the *exact* same situation in the *exact* same location. Then you know they're just running a scam that tugs on people's heart strings.

What is doubly sad with these is, when someone genuinely is in trouble and needs help, a lot of people assume that it's just another scam like one they've seen before. The signal to noise ratio is degraded to the point that real 3rd World levels of suffering happen sometimes right under people's noses precisely because they are burned out by the professional panhandlers.

Another example I saw - there was this maybe 30-something woman, looked rather disheveled, who was coming up on foot to people at the gas pump, claiming she had just fled her abusive husband and needed a ride somewhere.

Well, 2 weeks to the day later - same woman - exact same story. She didn't recognize me because I was in a different car, clearly did not remember the call I'd made to an organization 2 weeks before on her behalf in case the situation had been genuine.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

May-28

Remember the kid that drove drunk and killed 4 (??) kids.  His mom dyed his hair and took him to Mexico so he didn't have to go to jail?  That had to be the king of the Karen's!

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

May-28

I’ve see that too. Or holding signs saying they will work for food. A pregnant woman was adjusting the pillow under her shirt.  Kind of obvious she wasn’t pregnant.

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