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Park confrontation    The Newsy You: News of Today

Started May-26 by Showtalk; 2473 views.
Jeri (azpaints) said:

Arrest records from Minneapolis... https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/30/outsiders-extremists-are-among-those-fomenting-violence-in-twin-cities?fbclid=IwAR1_4egqqp1Rj_tJAhq9srkpU_A90CuQw2EQ8yGqpi0JziyM9cUxzwAMbvU

Yep, it kind of confirms more than one bunch that has come in to escalate things for their own agenda.

and this paragraph speaks volumes about agents provocateur and a climate where such things can happen with impunity:

... Turner Bargen, who saw a truck with a Three Percenters symbol on it, said he was afraid to confront the person, and afraid to call the police because he didn’t want an innocent person to get hurt by a police department that he no longer trusts. ...

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Ross said he thinks far-right extremist groups like Three Percenters and Boogaloo Bois are causing violence in the Twin Cities, as are some protesters angry about generations of institutional racism.  ... “It’s a complex ecosystem of a movement and you are seeing different groups contending to shift the balance in different directions,” Ross said. “There is an element of provocation emerging. And I think that probably comes from within as well as from without.”  ...

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Staff

From: Showtalk

May-31

What is their purpose?

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Staff

From: Showtalk

May-31

If it’s true, it sounds sinister.

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From: Showtalk

May-31

It could be a combination of local frustration and outside agitation.  Combined with being locked inside for months, people are itching to get out.  Although, none of these protestors or rioters are distancing. Wearing a mask is not distancing. So why aren’t any of them worried about COVID?

Showtalk said:

It could be a combination of local frustration and outside agitation. Combined with being locked inside for months, people are itching to get out. Although, none of these protestors or rioters are distancing. Wearing a mask is not distancing. So why aren’t any of them worried about COVID?

Those too. All of those ingredients put a lot of people near the flashpoint, and all that is needed is a triggering event to set it off, and then it just feeds on itself.

A few people see this as cover to "go have fun" which means to just break things and watch the pretty flames, and let their inner sociopath off its leash to run amok. Those are the kind who will burn and smash and destroy stuff just for the lulz of taking out whatever anger they have on other people's property.

And then there's those who see it as a chance to finally "get back at the man" and take what they believe should have been theirs except for their failing to win life's lottery.

And all combined, much like when a wildfire gets well established, it "makes its own weather". Witness "fire tornadoes" as a meteorology or chemistry / physics analogy to how a riot erupts.

Then social media makes it possible for riot mob mentality to spread to places, much like wind blown embers, far beyond where it could have in the pre-telecommunication days. So a situation that maybe in 1830 would have burned itself out in a single night, and we wouldn't even know about it for maybe 3 more months, can spread globally in a matter of hours.

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From: Showtalk

May-31

Someone who lives in a hot zone said the locals are out during the day and are relatively peaceful and curious, and many are angry. The real damage happens at night. Even Progressive San Francisco brought in National Guard and tear gas, and set up an 8 pm curfew.  Since it gets dark around 8, there can be no night activity.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

May-31

Our local news caster said when he got to Scottsdale!!!  Fashion Mall the first thing he saw was two men, civilians, carrying AR 15 type guns with handguns in their hips.  He said in 20 yrs of covering protests last night had an entirely different feel.  The protesters - rioters - were targeting high end stores in the mall and breaking windows and then looting the stores.  Scottsdale Fashion Mall is Scottsdale s Rodeo drive, one $ level down, very pricey, very "in".  This is the newscaster whose crew ate was attacked and beaten.

IMHO, this has nothing to do with Floyd's death and was an excuse to loot.  Stores were set afire.  The damage shown was horrible.

 

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From: Showtalk

May-31

Organized theft.  Are they arresting people?  Rodeo Drive was attacked yesterday.  That was not random.  I doubt many Beverly Hills residents are rioting and stealing from their own city.

I just told someone I know again, about how when I was a kid, I had all the major cities on a huge aviation map of the entire Continental US that completely covered my bedroom wall from floor to ceiling and side to side. That map was my bedroom wallpaper when I was about 12 years old or so.

I had red, orange, and yellow circles surrounding all the major cities drawn on the map, based on 20 megaton warhead survivability info from Civil Defense literature. Then there were plumes of likely fallout drawn more than 1,500 miles or so downwind to indicate where one would likely end up glowing in the dark once prevailing wind delivered the radioactive dust.

Now almost 50 years later, I have seen time and time again events that pretty much validated my original childhood belief that large major metropolitan areas, really are no-go zones. They might be quiet and safe to occasionally visit, but they are like going into the crater of an active volcano between eruptions. (cue up footage of the disaster on New Zealand's White Island)  (cue up footage of vulcanologists caught in a steam eruption in Mt St Helens crater almost 40 years after its devastating blast).

Cities seem to just periodically erupt, and the unrest usually doesn't metastasize out into the more sparsely populated parts of Flyover Country.

A few minutes ago I walked after dark down to the mailboxes and back, thankful that I don't live in one of those kind of places.

Saw one article about an 18 wheeler coming over a bridge and suddenly there's thousands of protestors milling around on all 10 lanes of Interstate 35, obstructing the flow of traffic and deliveries of vital goods. the crowd surrounded the truck and did a Reginald Denny on him.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8375041/Semi-truck-barrels-George-Floyd-protesters-marching-Minneapolis-interstate.html#comments

Some others were run over in another city when the mob surrounded a delivery truck aomeone climbed up onto the passenger side running board and pointed a gun at the driver. He ducked, and just floored it out of there. Confrontation with deadly force justifies use of deadly force to get out of the situation.

Some one delta ten tango types still haven't learned - don't threaten someone's life in a car or truck - 3 to 6 tons of metal is going to win if you try and block it in.

Actually that question has come up in survivalist circles, especially after the Rodney King riots. The consensus was, if they are armed, if any of them fires a shot, you floor it and mow them down and keep going.

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