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Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

Jul-17

H1N1 had a vaccine.  They aren't really comparable in my mind, but it allows people to dump on Obama while ignoring the disaster DT administration has allowed by ignoring science and numbers.  Testing was ended 4/2010 AFTER a vaccine was available and positive tests slowed dramatically in 12/2009.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-pandemic-timeline.html

THE FACTS: Social media posts are falsely claiming that the former president waited months to respond with a public health emergency declaration to the flu strain known as H1N1. The posts are conflating two types of emergency declarations a president can make. 

 

Obama declared a public health emergency on April 26, 2009 _ before a single swine flu death in the U.S. was reported. Such a declaration allows the government to unlock money for antiviral drugs and other medical preparedness measures. By April 29, Obama had requested Congress approve a $1.5 billion emergency funding package to combat the pandemic, The Associated Press reported at the time. 

It was in October, after 1,000 U.S. deaths, that Obama made another declaration related to the flu strain; this time a national emergency. 

That national emergency allowed the U.S. to activate  operational plans, such as moving emergency rooms offsite to keep those infected with the virus away from other emergency room patients.

Obama’s critics have mixed up claims about his response to the swine flu before. 

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad

Jul-17

Georgia's numbers for today (july 17)

New cases     today 3908 (+41)   yesterday 3441   7 day running average 3507   total 135, 183

deaths            today     28 (+15)    yesterday      13   7 day running average    25    total     3,132

hospitalizations  today 2902 (+61) yesterday   2841  7 day running average  2624

I guess Kemp is counting on the death total staying low

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad

Jul-17

I picked that up yesterday.  As I read it, HHS and CDC both will post the numbers

The US Department of Health and Human Services changed course on Thursday on a controversial decision about hospital data, directing the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to re-post public hospital information onto its website.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/health/hhs-cdc-coronavirus-data-website/index.html?utm_term=1594944036419f93b9ec88d84&utm_source=What+Matters+for+July+16%2C+2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=226555_1594944036421&bt_ee=LGrwcqshpuk429QZXcnhgdnd1kAN%2Fbtq35CRF35bwRzW6LcbnMslSRmhijHig2Yi&bt_ts=1594944036421

Speaking of the CDC, I just spotted this news item.

The White House is blocking US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield and other officials from the agency from testifying before a House Education and Labor Committee hearing on reopening schools next week, just as the debate over sending children back to classrooms has flared up across the US.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/politics/white-house-cdc-house-testimony-schools/index.html

I guess the reason is that the White House is still insisting students return to schools.  I dunno.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

Jul-17

The news (several papers) is reporting that an investigation is ongoing on the incorrect reporting in Florida.    There is no determination that can be made now until the investigation is completed.  Anything now is supposition or rank speculation until the study is completed.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

Jul-17

I think DT is both a control freak and a conspiracy theorist.  He hoards data thinking that will protect him without realizing there are too many layers of reporting to keep it secret.  

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad

Jul-17

Thanks for posting that passage.  Helps provide perspective.

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

Jul-17

Or doctoring the number intentionally. We will never know because it’s not a news story.

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

Jul-17

You are aware that children were most at risk from serious or death from H1N1, where COVID barely seems to affect most of them and they are not paying it to adults.  The real truth is that people are not blaming Trump for anything unless they are already looking for reasons to blame him.  I’ve asked a random bunch of people if they blame him and they all said no or that they aren’t blaming any single person. 

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

Jul-17

Flu vaccines are not designed to prevent outbreak. They affect symptoms and severity. Some people with flu vaccines won’t get it but it’s not like a measles vaccine that makes people completely immune.

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad

Jul-17

He is obviously a control freak.  His desire to control information is more that of an authoritarian ruler than just your run of the mill control freak.  I think his desire to control information is also the basis for his 20,000 lies and his perpetual distortions.  Lying is a form of controlling information.  

Remember the saying "knowledge is power,"  He wants to be the only one who can fit the pieces of knowledge together,   That desire for power is also reflected in his efforts to distract us from the ravages of the virus.  The deaths don't seem to disturb him.  He is in effect arrogating to himself the power of life and death and he doesn't want us to focus on that.  He has no interest whatsoever in the political system we have, preferring to be authoritarian and controlling.  That's what scares me the most. 

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