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Hope you are not dependent on Social Security or need Medicare   The Newsy You: News of Today

Started Aug-8 by MerlinsDad; 1173 views.
MerlinsDad said:

Of course, this won't help unemployed folks, but that is not the intention. He's creating a smoke screen of "helping the worker" to speed up the demise of social security and Medicare -- in the next very few years. Hope you're not dependent on Social Security for income.

... I don't make merry myself at Christmas, and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned--they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there."

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides--excuse me--I don't know that."

"But you might know it," observed the gentleman.

"It's not my business," Scrooge returned. "It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's.
Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!" - from A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens
EdGlaze

From: EdGlaze

Aug-9

Even worse is the additional trillions the Democrats want to give away.

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Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

Aug-9

Only during a political election period, could a temporary extension of benefits be considered bad.  From a nonpartisan, usually left leaning fact check siteL The whining from Congress now after they could not come to an agreement for political purposes takes blame off of themselves.  Both sides spent trillions already.

  • Edited August 9, 2020 9:57 am  by  Showtalk
MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad

Aug-9

Why would you say that?

kizmet1

From: kizmet1

Aug-9

I had a post about a woman who turned 65, got Medicare and rushed to a dr because her toe hurt her. She had been wearing shoes purchased at an estate sale. She tossed out the shoes. Toe stopped hurting.
Thank goodness she had Medicare! (Her late dh had been an MD. She sold 2 houses when she moved to a different state)
EdGlaze

From: EdGlaze

Aug-9

I tend to think greatly increasing the national debt by several trillion with Covid giveaways affects SS and Medicare, as well as other budget items, especially since tax revenues are corresponding down.

  • Edited August 9, 2020 2:02 pm  by  EdGlaze
Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

Aug-9

Medicare worked.

Showtalk
Staff

From: Showtalk

Aug-9

They just print more. Problem solved.  

In reply toRe: msg 1
MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad

Aug-9

There's a politifact discussion which rates false the statement that by Ron Wyden that ""#TrumpTax was only the beginning. After giving massive tax giveaways to wealthy & powerful shareholders, Republicans in Congress are plotting to take away Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security." 

However reform is not the same as taking away, and that critical point is discussed in detail later in the  article.  That distinction is critically important given what Trump is trying to do to Social Security with his suspension of payroll taxes for the rest of 2020.

opinion piece by Politifact, March 28, 2018

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/apr/05/ron-wyden/do-republicans-congress-want-take-away-social-secu/

Bolding mine

The argument that Medicare or Social Security could be eliminated is even weaker. Even if cuts to these programs are proposed — usually through limiting inflation-adjustment formulas, raising taxes on benefits, or raising the retirement age — we’ve seen no plan that scraps the programs.

Wyden’s staff tacitly confirmed that cuts are the GOP’s goal.

They pointed us to President Donald Trump’s 2019 budget proposal, which calls for $15.3 billion in Medicare cuts and $6.5 billion in Medicaid cuts in just the first year.

Wyden’s office added that Republicans have made no secret about their desire to "voucherize" Medicare (by giving beneficiaries a limited amount to purchase private insurance) and to raise the eligibility age for Social Security

Politifact specially rates false the assertion that the Republicans plan to take away Social Security, not the reality that they plan to reduce its effectiveness in providing needed income for the retired.  If Trump does indeed succeed in making the cut permanent, then Social Security will be broke much faster than the current projections. 

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