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Started 6/30/21 by Showtalk; 12888 views.
WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

8/7/21

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

Maybe the vaccine there was administered too late, and exposure happened before the immune system had fully gotten primed to repel an infection.

They warned us here with the Phizer one that after you get your first shot, you are still somewhat susceptible. After the 2nd shot, it takes another couple of weeks to truly have sufficient immunity, and an early infection will still knock you on your butt.

Once it's about 2 to 6 weeks past the 2nd shot, then breakthrough infections here are quite rare.

Israel started their first Phizer vaccinations on Dec 19, 2020 and by Jun 26, 2021, more than 64% of their population had already been fully vaccinated. I heard later that they were up to 79% or 80% vaccinated by the end of Jul, 2021.

They are now administering a 3rd shot due to the high infection rate from those who have already been vaccinated.

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

8/8/21

A friend works in a hospital and their ER has no covid cases, unlike a year ago, when it was constantly at max capacity.

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From: Showtalk 

8/8/21

That is a good description.

Showtalk said:

A friend works in a hospital and their ER has no covid cases, unlike a year ago, when it was constantly at max capacity.

I wish we didn't have so many nincompoops out here who think that if they get any of the vaccines, they'll become autistic or it will make them gay or it will give them erectile dysfunction, or it lets the CIA use 5G towers to beam brain waves at them.

If there weren't so many of them, we probably wouldn't, statistically, have any Covid admissions this late in the game with a population base in in the 26 counties making up this part of West Texas.

But with Delta, no vaccination is like coating vegetation with a thin misting of diesel fuel, so a spark will burn fiercely where it lands, and it takes a lot more to suppress fire propagation than it was with just dry vegetation.

Looking for a T shirt that says "Too chicken to get vaccinated?" - playing off on those afraid of needles, from a blood donation drive circa 1978. They said "Too chicken to give blood?" and shows a squawking chicken. And follows with "What if you need it?"

Thanks.

A more accurate detail of how the mRNA vaccines work, is they have a certain amount of messenger RNA, which is a protein manufacturing code sequence, that gets into a few cells and instructs them to produce protein spikes that look like the Covid virus, and circulate them into the bloodstream.

The mRNA is a one time use material. It doesn't reproduce, and so within about 12 to 24 hours, it has done its job and is then broken down in the body.

The protein spikes, being alien, cause the immune system to see them and attack them. These are usually gone within a couple of days, but they caused antibodies that are now specific to the Covid-19 virus to be manufactured by the immune system.

The second dose a few weeks later, wakes up the cells that produce antibodies, and cause them to sound the alarm again - "Zeroes on the horizon! General quarters! Battle stations!"

The "Zeroes" turn out to actually be drones that look like a squadron of Zeroes in an attack formation.. A few anti-aircraft rounds are fired off, and the crews now know what an attack looks like, without the ship taking any bombs, torpedoes, or bullets from a strafing run.

And so now they have become battle hardened without taking casualties, so when a wave of Zeroes do show up with live ammo to try and sink them, now they've gotten some target practice, they've worked out the kinks of loading and aiming the guns, their pilots have gotten better at dogfighting and much better at hitting the enemy.

And the battle goes far better than a surprise attack against a ship with a green crew only fresh from boot camp.

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From: Showtalk 

8/8/21

We have friends here who won’t get it for very good reasons. Some can’t, others won’t.  It’s always that way.

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From: Showtalk 

8/8/21

Such a simple explanation yet there are many many skeptics, not just here.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

8/9/21

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

I wish we didn't have so many nincompoops out here who think that if they get any of the vaccines, they'll become autistic or it will make them gay or it will give them erectile dysfunction

That's called passive aggressive bashing. Calling those who don't want the vaccination (for what ever reason) nincompoops.

And then you mix that passive aggressive bashing in with conspiracy theory.

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

it lets the CIA use 5G towers to beam brain waves at them.

I don't believe I'll become autistic, gay or get erectile dysfunction because of the vaccination. But I still don't want the vaccination.

For those whom have been vaccinated... they can become spreaders... and for those whom have yet to be vaccinated... they too can become spreaders. So you can be a spreader regardless of whether you get the vaccination or not. So what's the difference? They say the symptoms will be milder if you've been vaccinated, but then 99.8% of the cases of those who were healthy ant not yet vaccinated but got COVID also had mild to no symptoms. Thus getting the vaccination only helps 0.2% or less of the population.

And what are the long term effects of the vaccination? We don't know yet. It's not been made available to the public for that long to be able to find out.

So now... let's fast forward to 2025 or 2030... we now know the long term effects of the vaccinations. Should they be life threatening... then who would be the nincompoops? Until then... keep pushing the experimental drug for those who want it but stop belittling those who don't want to get the vaccination. It just makes you look like a bully calling people names for not getting vaccinated.

FWIW

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

8/9/21

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

The protein spikes, being alien, cause the immune system to see them and attack them. These are usually gone within a couple of days, but they caused antibodies that are now specific to the Covid-19 virus to be manufactured by the immune system.

The second dose a few weeks later, wakes up the cells that produce antibodies, and cause them to sound the alarm again - "Zeroes on the horizon! General quarters! Battle stations!"

The "Zeroes" turn out to actually be drones that look like a squadron of Zeroes in an attack formation.. A few anti-aircraft rounds are fired off, and the crews now know what an attack looks like, without the ship taking any bombs, torpedoes, or bullets from a strafing run.

And so now they have become battle hardened without taking casualties, so when a wave of Zeroes do show up with live ammo to try and sink them, now they've gotten some target practice, they've worked out the kinks of loading and aiming the guns, their pilots have gotten better at dogfighting and much better at hitting the enemy.

And the battle goes far better than a surprise attack against a ship with a green crew only fresh from boot camp.

Until a new variant comes out and the whole process must be started all over again.

And then a new variant comes out again and the whole process must be started all over again.

And then a new variant comes out again and the whole process must be started all over again.

And then a new variant comes out again and the whole process must be started all over again.

And then a new variant comes out again and the whole process must be started all over again.

And then a new variant comes out again and the whole process must be started all over again.

Ad infinum!

FWIW

 

Showtalk said:

Such a simple explanation yet there are many many skeptics, not just here.

Yep. There's far too many of them who would rather sit docked at Pearl Harbor on December 6th, 1941 blissfully certain that the Japanese Empire couldn't possibly launch any serious attack all the way out to the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

Right up until the next morning when thousands died on "a day that will live in infamy".

Once the torpedoes are in the water and bombs falling down the smokestack, it's too late.

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