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More9/13/21
Marci (marcinmin) said...
Trump is the one who made the deal with the Taliban and released 5000 prisoners. Yes Biden also pledged to get us out of Afghanistan as well. 20 years is long enough. Nation building only works when the country wants it. We’ve had enough Americans die in a wise we never should have been in. The war has also drained resources that should be spend on Americans
You need to learn a bit about what you're talking about...
First of all, the 5,000 prisoners which Trump (or more accurately... the Afghanistan military) released are those which Americans had captured and held in the prison at Bagram AFB, but who had no proven direct ties with Al Quaida or ISIS. And that is what Al Jazeera themselves actually reported in Feb. 2019!
What happened to prisoners at Bagram, ‘Afghanistan’s Guantanamo’? | Asia | Al Jazeera
Secondly, there were 5,000 ~ 7,000 others also held at Bagram AFP prison but whom Trump would not allow to be released because they were known to have ties with Al Quaida or ISIS.
On Aug. 27, 2021; Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby said that “thousands” of ISIS-K terrorists have been released from the prison at the Bagram Air Base since President Joe Biden’s administration abandoned it on July 1.
During a Pentagon press briefing, Kirby was asked about the number of ISIS-K fighters who have been released from prison amid President Joe Biden’s chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, to which he responded, “I don’t know the exact number. Clearly, it’s in the thousands when you consider both prisons, because both of them were taken over by the Taliban and emptied. But I couldn’t give you a precise figure.”
But on Aug. 15, 2021; Fox News reported that...
Afghan officials estimated that the U.S. left about 5,000 to 7,000 prisoners in the air base when the Americans left, according to Axios.
The Pul-e-Charkhi prison, the largest in Afghanistan, contained a maximum-security cell block for Al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners. Afghan government troops surrendered control of the base without a fight.
Taliban frees thousands of prisoners from former US base: report | Fox News
So it looks like Fox News knows more than Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby or Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby purposefully hid the exact number. And they were the ones with direct ties to Al Quaida or ISIS. The same ones Biden left in their cells at Bagram when we pulled out and didn't notify Afghanistan Military that we were pulling out!!!
FWIW
9/13/21
WALTER784 said:First of all, the 5,000 prisoners which Trump (or more accurately... the Afghanistan military) released are those which Americans had captured and held in the prison at Bagram AFB, but who had no proven direct ties with Al Quaida or ISIS. And that is what Al Jazeera themselves actually reported in Feb. 2019!
9/13/21
notice how the right now tries to portray the Taliban as 'good guys,' except when it doesn't fit their narrative. We went to war with the Taliban after OBL and Al Qaeda left the country. The right thinks the Saudis are great allies and the leaders, even though most of the 9/11 bombers were from there. It's all relative and usually depends on $$
9/13/21
I think it's more about how der leader (Trumo) made one of the greatest "deals" in the history of deals with the Taliban, of which this prisoner release was a direct result and almost immediately the Taliban reneged on the deal...what a deal from the greatest deal maker of all time.
9/13/21
The_Rock (JABRONI256) said...
WALTER784 said:First of all, the 5,000 prisoners which Trump (or more accurately... the Afghanistan military) released are those which Americans had captured and held in the prison at Bagram AFB, but who had no proven direct ties with Al Quaida or ISIS. And that is what Al Jazeera themselves actually reported in Feb. 2019!
I attempted to view the link you posted, but it showed the following screen, but as I'm not a subscriber and cannot see it without subscribing... it's sort of hard to really say much.
But looking at the title... I can see that it says >>>
Any better sources available to corroborate that story?
FWIW
9/13/21
WSJ is a conservative publication, of course they are reasoned and not insane so there's that, goes against your grain I know.
BBC confirms https://www.bbc.com/news/58412530
But I guess because the BBC isn't owned by Murdoch or editorially controlled by Steve Bannon that makes that source inadmissible right?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/remembering-the-shameful-trump-taliban-peace-agreement/
9/13/21
The WSJ has some good reporters but the editorial board is far right and total Trumpers. I suspect the Murdoch family isn’t as directly involved with WSJ as FNC or NY Post, but it is clear who owns them. The editorial board has a weekly Show on Fox which makes it clear where they stand.
9/13/21
It depends. Some of their writers are anti-Trumpers and are not considered conservative. They are probably moderate. I don’t follow the paper much.
9/13/21
Trump gave the Taliban a clear warning at the meeting that if a single American was killed they would be wiped out. They believed him and they feared him. There is no comparison between Trump and Biden, which you would think is a good thing.