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88% fully vaxed and new cases still risi   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started 10/20/21 by WALTER784; 16630 views.
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12/6/21

Absolutely not! These are people I know or family members of people I know who never had the vaccine and got it twice.  A friend who works in an ER got Covid about 6 months in. It was a relatively mild case because she was already taking Vitamin D3. She somehow got hydroxy and took that. Her doctor had refused to treat her.  She is not vaxxed but she is also taking some precautions because she knows she can get it a second time.  I have not heard of anyone getting Covid three times.

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12/6/21

Their mistake was overpromising.  At the time, they believed it might act as a polio vaccine and prevent any infection.  Instead they found it acts more like a flu shot and slows it down but doesn’t not prevent it.  What the vaccine does is cuts back on hospitalizations and death.  Any examples you give don’t take into account that it could be much much worse.  And why are we rehashing the same things again?

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

12/6/21

OK then, so friends or family members have gotten it more than once.

We hear nothing about the original Corona-19 anymore these days. It's all about the various multiple variants. 

It's mutated so much that perhaps those who got the original strain might have been re-infected by a newer/modified strain.

But as I said earlier, 4 weeks or more ago, CDC themselves had said that no person who had recovered from Covid has been reinfected with the breakthrough variants. Maybe they were lying, perhaps some of the newer variants have proved that to be false.

But what about the original strain? We hear absolutely nothing about it.

FWIW

WALTER784

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12/6/21

Showtalk said...

What the vaccine does is cuts back on hospitalizations and death.

I continue to post articles that state otherwise.

Showtalk said...

Any examples you give don’t take into account that it could be much much worse.  And why are we rehashing the same things again?

Because the articles I'm posting now state otherwise and your argument that it could have been much worse isn't panning out as favorably now with all these world wide stories saying that it is much worse, there are more hospitalized and more deaths than we would like to see among the vaccinated!

Otherwise, it wouldn't be much news... just a rehash of old news, but this is new news because more vaccinated are being hospitalized, more vaccinated people are dying. And thus it's not a rehash, but an update that the vaccinated are not as well protected as they initially were led to believe.

No rehashing what so ever. Only additional proof that vaccinated individuals are quite susceptible and adept to be hospitalized and die as unvaccinated people. 

Edited to add: [Perhaps even more so than the unvaccinated due to the sheer number of vaccinated individuals. Which we've also discussed. The vaccinated are NOT more protected!]

FWIW

  • Edited December 6, 2021 10:48 am  by  WALTER784
Showtalk
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From: Showtalk

12/6/21

There is no original strain. It appears to have died out to be replaced by weaker variants.  That is exactly what some predicted.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

12/6/21

And where did the variants come from as well as whether the vaccination helped bring about the new variants has yet to be determined.

FWIW

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From: Showtalk

12/6/21

The vaccine did not bring nor create variants. It is incapable of doing so. The virus changed itself to adapt so it could find more hosts.  It was already adapting by the time  the first vaccines were available. That is what corona viruses do.

WALTER784

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12/6/21

Most viruses do that, but the mutation rates and number of mutations of Covid have been off the charts compared to any other comparable virus. And thus one begs to ask the question why? And whether the vaccine itself may have induced the mass mutations or not. And that question has yet to be answered.

FWIW 

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From: Showtalk

12/6/21

Maybe because they manufactured a super virus that behaves differently.

WALTER784

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12/6/21

Showtalk said...

Maybe because they manufactured a super virus that behaves differently.

Behaves differently such that a vaccine might cause it to mutate in different ways depending on the DNA of the individual or due to the spike proteins the body creates?

Or perhaps this?

COVID mRNA shots are a ‘technology designed to poison people’: Canadian doctor

Tue Nov 23, 2021 - 4:57 pm EST
 
Dr. Michael Palmer explained that the mRNA mechanism has the same result as radiation treatments for cancer patients and there are limits on how much the human body can withstand before dying.
 
WATERLOO, Ontario (LifeSiteNews) — A Canadian doctor and microbiologist explained the toxic dangers of the mRNA COVID vaccines and why he considers the shots a “technology designed to poison people.”
 
Dr. Michael Palmer, a Canadian board-certified doctor, medical microbiologist, and professor of pharmacology and toxicology at the University of Waterloo, briefly explained in a video posted online last month how the mechanisms within the novel mRNA COVID-19 vaccines function. He also articulated why he thinks the experimental injections present a serious and potentially fatal toxicity risk to recipients.
 
“[The mRNA shots] have two components. One is the messenger RNA (mRNA) which contains the blueprint for … the spike protein that occurs normally on the surface of the virus particles, and the idea is to sneak this messenger RNA into our own body cells in order to have them make the actual protein to which the immune system responds to,” Palmer explained.
 
“The second component is the lipid nanoparticles,” the doctor continued. “These lipids, fat-like molecules, they encase the messenger RNA and they serve two purposes. One is to protect the messenger RNA while it is in transport and secondly also to help it enter the body cells.”
 
According to Palmer, the issue that arises from this is that one of the components of these lipid nanoparticles, the “cationic” or “electrically positively charged lipid,” is “known to be quite toxic” as a “general property.”
 
As a result, once these toxic lipids enter the cell, “they tend to disrupt the mitochondrial respiration, the cell respiration,” which is a process that humans need “for producing energy.” Palmer states that if this process is disrupted, the oxygen from respiration is not properly “reduced to water” but instead is reduced to “reactive oxygen species” that can “react with anything,” including “our DNA” in a way that inflicts “damage.”
 
Even worse, Palmer elaborates that the result of this mechanism is the same result radiation treatments for cancer patients produce, which he says means there are strict limits on how much the human body can withstand before dying.

COVID mRNA shots are a ‘technology designed to poison people’: Canadian doctor - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)

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