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More12/6/21
Absolutely not! These are people I know or family members of people I know who never had the vaccine and got it twice. A friend who works in an ER got Covid about 6 months in. It was a relatively mild case because she was already taking Vitamin D3. She somehow got hydroxy and took that. Her doctor had refused to treat her. She is not vaxxed but she is also taking some precautions because she knows she can get it a second time. I have not heard of anyone getting Covid three times.
12/6/21
Their mistake was overpromising. At the time, they believed it might act as a polio vaccine and prevent any infection. Instead they found it acts more like a flu shot and slows it down but doesn’t not prevent it. What the vaccine does is cuts back on hospitalizations and death. Any examples you give don’t take into account that it could be much much worse. And why are we rehashing the same things again?
12/6/21
OK then, so friends or family members have gotten it more than once.
We hear nothing about the original Corona-19 anymore these days. It's all about the various multiple variants.
It's mutated so much that perhaps those who got the original strain might have been re-infected by a newer/modified strain.
But as I said earlier, 4 weeks or more ago, CDC themselves had said that no person who had recovered from Covid has been reinfected with the breakthrough variants. Maybe they were lying, perhaps some of the newer variants have proved that to be false.
But what about the original strain? We hear absolutely nothing about it.
FWIW
12/6/21
Showtalk said...
What the vaccine does is cuts back on hospitalizations and death.
I continue to post articles that state otherwise.
Showtalk said...
Any examples you give don’t take into account that it could be much much worse. And why are we rehashing the same things again?
Because the articles I'm posting now state otherwise and your argument that it could have been much worse isn't panning out as favorably now with all these world wide stories saying that it is much worse, there are more hospitalized and more deaths than we would like to see among the vaccinated!
Otherwise, it wouldn't be much news... just a rehash of old news, but this is new news because more vaccinated are being hospitalized, more vaccinated people are dying. And thus it's not a rehash, but an update that the vaccinated are not as well protected as they initially were led to believe.
No rehashing what so ever. Only additional proof that vaccinated individuals are quite susceptible and adept to be hospitalized and die as unvaccinated people.
Edited to add: [Perhaps even more so than the unvaccinated due to the sheer number of vaccinated individuals. Which we've also discussed. The vaccinated are NOT more protected!]
FWIW
12/6/21
There is no original strain. It appears to have died out to be replaced by weaker variants. That is exactly what some predicted.
12/6/21
And where did the variants come from as well as whether the vaccination helped bring about the new variants has yet to be determined.
FWIW
12/6/21
The vaccine did not bring nor create variants. It is incapable of doing so. The virus changed itself to adapt so it could find more hosts. It was already adapting by the time the first vaccines were available. That is what corona viruses do.
12/6/21
Most viruses do that, but the mutation rates and number of mutations of Covid have been off the charts compared to any other comparable virus. And thus one begs to ask the question why? And whether the vaccine itself may have induced the mass mutations or not. And that question has yet to be answered.
FWIW
12/6/21
Showtalk said...
Maybe because they manufactured a super virus that behaves differently.
Behaves differently such that a vaccine might cause it to mutate in different ways depending on the DNA of the individual or due to the spike proteins the body creates?
Or perhaps this?
FWIW