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How Mask Mandates Flattened the Curve   Futility Folder:Politics

Started Oct-22 by yotsubishi (ToraMori); 2014 views.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/europes_covid_second_wave_spike_shows_the_futility_of_lockdowns_and_mask_mandates_as_well_as_the_phoniness_of_the_dems_criticism_of_trump.html

I take no schadenfreude joy in the resurgence of Coronavirus in the European countries that have imposed drastic lockdowns and mask mandates. The enormous costs – economic, medical and psychological – of locking up the populace have not purchased any benefit. Vijeta Uniyal reports at Legal Insurrection:

Europe is experiencing the full fury of Wuhan coronavirus with the death toll surpassing that of the United States. “Across Europe, the number of infections since the start of the pandemic is now above 8.2 million and more than 258,000 people have died from COVID-19,” French TV network EuroNews confirmed on Saturday.

Germany is among the worst hit, with the number of deaths due to the Chinese virus crossing 10,000 on Saturday. “The rise in infections has spurred a number of local measures to be implemented across the country, and officials have warned of a national lockdown,” public broadcaster Deutsche Welle reported.  Rather than admit that viruses will spread virally, and lockdowns only delay this, Europe’s leaders, except in Sweden, are doubling down, “stuck on stupid,” in the immortal word of General Russel Honore.

 

Burat (DocFreddie)

From: Burat (DocFreddie)

Oct-28

A difficult choice: lockdown and delay the inevitable, or no lockdown and possibly be overwhelmed.

 

My choice personally: try to avoid, and hope for a vaccine soon.

The problem with locales that locked down is this: complacency.

They avoided the initial hit, felt that it was safe to "come out', only to  find out otherwise.

Human nature.

 

BTW: I may be wrong, but I do not feel that we are in the second wave, or third.

This is the first wave delayed by the lockdowns.

AFH2020

From: AFH2020

Oct-28

Just curious - what do you think about the U. of Kansas study that just came out a few days ago?

https://www.kwch.com/video/2020/10/28/university-kansas-study-shows-masks-effectiveness-fight-against-covid-/

MikeJA

From: MikeJA

Oct-28

You're probably right. It's looking more and more like the only way we are going to get out of this mess is with an effective, widely distributed vaccine. 

Germany was widely praised for taking strong lockdown measures early in the game and they had a nice run, with a low number of new cases for many months.  But in recent weeks, there has been an explosion in new cases.  Their daily new case rate is double what it was back when it peaked in March and they are now in a panic.

So until that vaccine is ready, all we can do is try to hold down the spread as best we can with the social distancing and masks and hope we don't have to take any of the severe lockdown measures that really kill the economy and cause other problems.  The masks may or may not really help, but it makes us feel like we are good people when using them.

Burat (DocFreddie)

From: Burat (DocFreddie)

Oct-29

I have not seen it.

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Burat (DocFreddie)

From: Burat (DocFreddie)

Oct-29

I am a big believer in masks. I wear them always when I see my patients, and I will not see any of my patients without them wearing a mask.

I mask everywhere outside the house, except when walking my dog, since I live in the suburbs where I can distance myself easily from anyone outside.

AFH2020

From: AFH2020

Oct-29

Agree 100%. And the U.K study is one of the latest to show significant decrease in hospitalizations from mask mandate.

Boomslang (DaveP8)

From: Boomslang (DaveP8)

Oct-29

I think you're right about this being the first wave.  

Dave P

MikeJA

From: MikeJA

Oct-29

I believe it's inconclusive whether or not typical cloth masks do much good in preventing virus spread.  There are conflicting studies out there.  Since we don't know for sure, I agree that we should all wear masks where recommended. 

I stay out of stores, but if I have to go indoors somewhere other than my own home, I have N95 masks in my car.

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