WildBill (WILDBILL47) said... Once big money and power got into the game it is hard to believe anyone on climate
Pray tell WHAT big money promotes environmental science and public education thereof?
WildBill (WILDBILL47) said... the real scientists retreated decades ago,
The real scientists are presently just as real as ever, a growing cohort and their research continues to mount as the earth itself continues to validate the hypothesis.
WildBill (WILDBILL47) said... the greatest threat is that GW is being used as an economic and control weapon from the governments of the world to control the people of the world
The greatest threat to humanity is that the governments of the world might not in fact succeed in altering human behavior, economic behavior, that naturally prefers to use old energy technology already paid for than to abandon it and develop more costly new technology. Feel free to propose any way other than political will behind force of law to do this.
WildBill (WILDBILL47) said... there are plenty of good reasons to reduce emissions but global warming is not really one of them
We have managed to clean (most of) the grunge out of the CO2 exhausts from oil and coal but fossil fuel is still mostly carbon and CO2 is what's predominantly driving the long term retention of solar energy in the troposphere and surface and seas. It is CO2 from fossil carbon (which makes it additive) that must be abated.
OF COURSE population reduction would reduce the production of greenhouse gas. That's an even harder sell than new technology but. again, feel free to propose any way other than political will behind force of law to do that.