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From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-12 1:57 AM 
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Why You Should Never Order Drinks With Ice, Bartenders Say

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At your next company happy hour, you may want to consider ordering your mixed drinks “neat,” or at room temperature—without ice.  Business Insider recently asked more than two dozen bartenders to “weigh in on what they’d love to tell customers but can’t.” Their response: Think twice about ice because it may be unclean.Of course, this is just anecdotal advice from a handful of mixologists. While some bars and restaurants may not rigorously clean their ice machines, others may do so...HuffPost spoke to two experts on ice and ice machine contamination. Three main issues were discussed in the piece: mold, bacteria, and whatever is found on peoples’ hands...the University of Nevada, Las Vegas examined the prevalence of bacteria in ice and soda dispensed at Las Vegas restaurants. The study found that 33.3% of ice samples contained heterotrophic bacteria—higher than EPA standards. It also found that “72.2% were positive for presumptive coliform bacteria presence.” (The soda samples fared far worse in both categories.)And of course, there’s human negligence. Bartenders who work while sick, don’t wash their hands before scooping ice, and use their hands to touch ice can contaminate ice from their hands. (Norovirus can be spread this way.)




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From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-12 2:01 AM 
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Is It Bad to Put Ice In Your Drink? - Step To Health

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There have been several investigations to determine if ice cubes, which are very popular in summer, are good for our health.The results were chilling: in most fast food establishments and “trendy” cafes, the water used to make ice was filled with bacteria (in doses similar to those found in the restrooms of the same premises). Are we comparing toilet water to the ice in drinks served at a chain of restaurants? Yes. And the worst of all is that toilets are cleaned more often than the ice machines.

...If you meet all hygiene requirements when preparing and placing ice cubes in your glass, there’s less chance of introducing microorganisms that are harmful to your health. However, there’s still something else worth considering when it comes to rethinking about consuming drinks that are too cold: irritation in the throat and vocal cords. If the first thing you do is drink soda, juice or a glass of cold water (from the fridge or with ice cubes) when you get home feeling very hot, you can later suffer from a sore throat or even dysphonia.




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From: Glen (GEAATL) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostMar-12 2:07 AM 
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The Sanitation of Ice-Making Equipment - Food Safety Magazine

Sixty years ago, an article on the sanitation of crushed ice was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.[1] The authors commented that an investigation of crushed ice revealed heavy contamination with coliform organisms. They opined that the contaminants can be introduced into crushed ice in many ways, chiefly by dust from the floors of freezing rooms, trucks and restaurants as well as by reusing soiled containers and through human hand contact. Of these, it was no small wonder that handling during dispensing was found to be the most prolific source. It took another 15 years for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to issue a publication in which epidemiologists traced several outbreaks of gastrointestinal illness—including noroviruses—to the use of contaminated ice, although many of these were in hospital settings.. Nonetheless, ice is no different from food or water when viewed as a comestible. However, there are differences between ice and potentially hazardous foods. First, even though the temperature of ice is well within the “safety zone,” ice machines are prone to microbial contamination. Even clean, potable water can become contaminated ice in ways that may not be readily apparent. Secondly, using a classical Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points approach in evaluating the use of ice in the average retail food establishment will reveal that ice manufacturing, storage, distribution and handling is quite complex because of its almost universal use in preparation, service and as a food. The analysis will reveal Critical Control Points we would never imagine when dealing with meat or poultry. Additionally, applying a detailed plan review to the use and traffic of ice in a typical restaurant, the patterns that are revealed would make any sanitarian cringe, particularly those that lead to multiple and inappropriate handling practices.  




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From: Bike (URALTOURIST1) DelphiPlus Member IconMar-15 11:32 AM 
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The areas on cruise ships that gain the most attention from sanitation inspections are ice machines, walk in refrigerated areas, potato and onion lockers and similar, all are havens for e.coli and worse due to moist, cool or damp environments with open access to unwashed persons or hands (consider who handles potato sacks, vegetable sacks and boxes of produce).  Another issue on cruise ships is the myriad pipes and ducts that pass through storage areas, some dripping "stuff" and condensate from pipe sweat in these out of sight storage rooms and lockers, after not very long, mold, mildew and pathogenic growth can occur on the produce and cool storage materials.


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From: computronicsMar-15 10:33 PM 
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drinks with ice is  very dangerous 

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Edited 3/15/2018 10:33:25 PM ET by GEAATL

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