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Started Jun-26 by candrew; 13149 views.
Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Jul-9

Excellent news Andrew! 
I think it is fantastic that you post when feeling strong and positive. It feeds positive influence to your mind. Like so often, in a store or whatever, folks only speak to a manager when something goes wrong or service is bad. I make a point to do the opposite. I love to give positive feedback to workers and their bosses! It so often goes unsaid as human tendency seems to be to focus on the negative. When I do speak up, it is so obvious the delight that is brought to people. These are the things that fuel them to keep going! Hopefully it will help towards getting some hard working folks a raise too. If enough people spoke out about the good, it might! 
Well, same for us as individuals too. We are always at the ready to beat ourselves up over even our smallest of transgressions. Why? There is no growth or productivity from shame! Energy begets energy and it does so in whatever form it is put out. 
Today you are your own affirmation! It has come naturally from within. How wonderful is that? So wonderful. 
I wonder if at times we give the addict voice that we all have a tad too much credence. Not that it isn’t a very loud, boisterous voice mind you. We all know it is. We have other voices too. The addict’s tendency is to focus on the addict voice and tune the others out. It cannot be ignored for certain. But it can be acknowledged and told a few things (lord knows I’ve told mine some pretty colorful stuff joy ) . Today you acknowledged, tuned into some fantastic Jazz and danced! WoooHooo!!  What a beautiful choice you made. Wise self in control, choosing what all the rest of you wants. Empowering Andrew. 
 

Every day is different, but every day we have choices. The more we make positive choices on a conscious level, the more they become spontaneous and naturally occur. It’s true. 
 

Thank you for sharing Andrew. I’m certain the good energy will have a ripple effect, not only for you, but for others here. It did me! 
Dance Andrew dance! Dance as though no one is watching. 

Jerthie123

From: Jerthie123

Jul-9

Andrew....

Like I know... You are a winner!  I am glad you danced off your craving.  And I am so glad that you know that one would only lead to another and another.  It is like, we think we want a smoke.  The feeling and the thought are so strong and wild. BUT! That is not us Andrew. It is the addiction.  Us? We KNOW that once we butt out we will feel worse.  The addiction craving goes satisfied. But us?  We are left feeling even more deflated than we did just a few anxious minutes ago! Andrew, you go on with your bad self.  You are in a good place... A very good place. Stay there Andrew and continue to build your momentum! You got this and so much more!

Jerthie123

From: Jerthie123

Jul-9

Lorificent....

What a wonderful message. I especially reaped benefit from one of your previous messages, about how our society thrives so much on instant gratification.  That rings so true for the smoking addiction.  We want to rid ourselves of stress, anxiety, things to do. To rid ourselves of discomfort, instead of taking time to process emotions or make a list, we smoke, thinking that will be a fix to our problems-  Well, it is NOT a fix. It is NOT a solution.  It only makes us satisfied for a brief repose before we fall into that same awful feeling of anxiety and defeat for want of yet another!  I hate it!  I hate it, hate it, hate it.

I am still using the lozenges, but have been able to scale back to 6 a day instead of 10 a day. I honestly don't know why I still use these things. I hate that addiction controls me 6 times a day. I think where I am at a loss is that I still see lozenges as enjoyable. I hate them but a small part of me loves them. Sad but true.

To anyone else out here on their quit journey, know that any step you take towards not smoking is a step in the RIGHT direction!  Cutting down. NRT. Delaying each smoke... Until you can get to COLD TURKEY the ultimate goal.  Stay strong people. One baby step at a time.  We got this.

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Jul-9

Thank you Jerthie!

Yes, our culture is pretty consuming. It takes a lot of work to step back and live consciously and with intention. Culture here is capitalistically built on consumerism and we allow ourselves to become victims of it’s folly. It starts when we are younger and groomed to believe we need so many of these things that are pitched at us. In so many aspects of our lives too! From junk food to prescription drugs. It all right there in our faces and we have over time become desensitized to the seductive sell and are lured into consuming. Big Tobacco has made a tremendous fortune based on this premise, and they continue to do so. Their edge is even more dangerous as they sell such an insanely addictive substance. 
The good news is, it really is all in our heads and we really do have control. It is painful to take that control, as we all know. And the addict within each of us digs in and screams and kicks and puts up a helluva fight when we attempt to take control. 
This is why I believe it is extremely important to do what Andrew did this morning. Become your own affirmation. There is NO one source outside of our mind that will be triumphant with quitting. There are aids to assist that are quite helpful for many ( I was one of those that NRT helped). But those too come with their pitfalls. It is about finding a balance somewhere inside. The addict cannot be ignored. Willpower alone will not sustain you. You must also nurture and tune into the other aspects of your mind and allow those wiser voices to govern. Those voices need sustenance as well. Not in the form of nicotine but in encouragement, acknowledgement, celebration, awareness, and many other things, but basically, they need to be given a space to have their voice. Focusing only on the self centered addict voice is an exercise in defeat. 
We are all capable. Because we are all so multifaceted! So so much beauty in that! Why choose to let one spoiled child within rule?  That spoiled child within is also trainable. It can be given new tools and healthy vices. It takes it a very very long time to accept those new positive things as sufficient, but, with awareness and patience, it does learn new things and is capable of letting old things go. I will never underestimate that addict piece though, no matter how long since it’s been given what it once loved so dearly. It will always be vulnerable to the lure of nicotine. We have these fond memories of so many times we indulged in enjoyment. Over time we learn to enjoy all of those things equally without nicotine. It takes time. But so far, that’s all we all really have. None of us knows how much, but, it’s all we have. 
Im working really hard to not be so influenced by so many wastes of time in our culture. It’s definitely getting easier.

Do what works for you Jerthie. Always move forward.

Dance! Dance dance dance!

candrew

From: candrew

Jul-9

Lore -

A wise woman indeed! Yea, it's so easy to stay in the negative. Lately I try to project positive energy with any interaction I have in life. Take it people, places and things, I am responsible for my reactions, be it good or bad. This is especially true when it comes to me. I am my biggest critic. I used to say that I have never been satisfied with much of anything in which is bull****. I am an intelligent, handsome, generous and caring man and have done some truly amazing things for myself and others. I love to build people up and make them feel good. Sometimes I think I could have been a motivational speaker like Tony Robbins. Maybe next life.

The power to affect change is within all of us. In my case it was simply a matter of focusing on the good stuff, ignoring the bad stuff and in my mind dance with this gift called life.

I've had several addictions in my lifetime. And I beat all of them except smoking tobacco. Goodby to smoking. 

Good day,

Andrew

CC to Jerthie123
xvaper

From: xvaper

Jul-9

Brilliant!

Proud of you. Yes when a craving comes i must remind myself that A. I don't really want to smoke, the addicted part of the brain is just firing off because of whatever trigger. I don't enjoy a cigarette, its pretty awful really, bitter and smelly and weakening , and the only reason why I continued smoking was because I am addicted to nicotine, and B. if I had one, it would not stop at that. It never did and never will.

Jerthie123

From: Jerthie123

Jul-9

Thank you Lorificent!

I was on the verge of not just having a lozenge, but an actual smoke.  I am sitting in front of a gas station with the warm sun and cool breeze tempting me to just "enjoy" one.  Yeah right!  The thought is seductive and so alluring, but I know that two puffs in I will have regretted turning back.  I don't know why Lorificent... Why I want a smoke and not a lozenge.  I am not going to have either though.  What is it that calls to me?

Is it gratification of an emotion I want to fill?  Perhaps?  Is there a vibe I want to latch on to?  A wave I want to ride?  I believe there is, sadly.  I still to this day romanticize smokes and lozenges as a cute little vice that makes me prettier, that makes me skinnier... Overall cuter.  It's the disgusting truth.  I am telling you all.  THAT is my truth at this moment.  It is the thought that comes back to haunt me everyday.

BUT you know what everyone?! I can create a NEW truth.  I can create a new wave to ride.  What that wave is I really don't know.  I used to smoke to catch a feeling.  Perhaps I have to check in on those other voices Lore... The wise voice, the encouraging voice, the loving voice... And NOT give in to the spoiled brat crying in the corner like an annoyance that just won't quit!

It is true Lore!  It is all in our mind!  And with that I said NO to the smoke and NO to the lozenge. One step at a time!!!

Jerthie123

From: Jerthie123

Jul-9

Xvaper... Thank you for the precious reminder.  I don't believe in enjoying just one or two smokes a day.  It does not end there.  It builds up to the inevitable momentum that drags you back into nicotine's evil shackles.  I wish I could say a complete goodbye to the lozenges.

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Jul-10

Hi Andrew,

It is easier to stay in the negative at times. I’ve often wondered why that is, and don’t have an answer. It’s good to hear you are mindful and making the effort to project positive energy. Also good to hear you acknowledge your positive attributes! But, why wait for the next life to be a motivational speaker? You likely have quite a bit of this one yet. Something like that to pursue in retirement could be really fulfilling. 
 

Having overcome several addictions can bring so much depth and empathy. It’s ok to allow a little of that for yourself. Sounds like lately that you are. I am also my worst critic (as far as I know). It takes a lot to get beyond that but I’m working on it too. Honestly, stopping smoking helped a lot with that. It really opened my mind up to allowing myself to be empowered by the accomplishment. One doesn’t realize what a box tobacco keeps you in until you let it go. It’s so interesting to tune in and become aware of the thoughts and feelings that prompted lighting up. Interesting to learn new ways to cope without lighting up. 
The process can be dreadful or it can be mind expanding. We get to choose. Not saying some of those intense craves were easy. They aren’t. But it really is a choice how to react. There were times I’d have to close my eyes and breathe and felt for a few minutes that is all I could do. Just breathe and feel the pain. Those days didn’t last long in hindsight, but in the thick of it? Yeah. It stunk. 
Anyway. Think about the speaking thing. It certainly isn’t too late.

I absolutely love “dance with this gift called life”. With your permission I will borrow that expression. Such a fantastic image! Thank you.

Keep on dancing! 

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Jul-10

Mmmm. It’s nicotine Jerthie. That’s what calls to you. As users, it is our “normal”. Our brains are so entwined with it that we think it is what makes us feel normal. We had to have our hit to bring us back up to the level that non users are always at. 
I don’t need to lecture you on the physical detriment of nicotine. I am curious though how the connection was made for you that it made you cuter? That’s isn’t something I’ve heard anyone say. Is it weight related? Are you worried about gaining weight if you give up the nicotine? I don’t think that has to be the case. You also don’t need to answer those questions here if you aren’t inclined. I realize they are point blank questions. Ask yourself though. Maybe write out your answers? Nicotine will age a person fairly quickly. In many ways. 
 

Yes! Check in with the other voices/aspects that make up Jerthie! There is a lot there. Pretty much most ways we deal with or cope with things are in our minds. We have a lot more control than we want to think at times. It’s kind of human nature to seek the path of least resistance; it’s easier to blame an external force than to dig in and own up its all us. That screaming spoiled brat in the corner is still part of you. Not an external being we cannot control, or that belongs to some poor haggard mom who is at her wits end, standing in the grocery line whilst her kid embarrasses her to no end. It’s our own spoiled brat! You get to treat it however you feel is productive. It’s one small piece of many many pieces that make Jerthie. Maybe take some time, few minutes a day, and look inside and get to know some of the other voices better. 
Im not one who views nicotine as evil. I understand it helps some folks to criminalize it. But, really, it’s just a chemical. It has no power on its own. None, nada, zip. We give it power when we use. We are responsible. And we are also very very capable of letting it go. 
Im kind of sleepy and rambling. I’m looking forward to hearing about who you meet inside you though! What words of acceptance and encouragement and strength and are there?

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