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From: GreyHawk (greyhawk121) Posted by host5/26/05 3:08 PM 
To: All  (1 of 18) 

You may wish to check this out, and do what you can to help.

Judge prevents parents from teaching their Wiccan religion to child.

I created an entry on "MailToBlog", so you can check out the story, and decide what you want to and can do to help fight this blatant, unconstitutional discrimination.

The parents, when they divorced, both fiercely objected to a paragraph the Republican judge inserted into their divorce decree, stating that they practiced "non-mainstream religious beliefs and rituals" and - to avoid confusing the child - they were not permitted to indoctrinate and share their beliefs with their child, who they sent to a Catholic school.

This is outrageous.

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From: Ralph (RBGlatt)5/26/05 3:21 PM 
To: GreyHawk (greyhawk121)  (2 of 18) 
 9281.2 in reply to 9281.1 
WTF? The judge ordered them to send their child to a Catholic school?

From: GreyHawk (greyhawk121) Posted by host5/26/05 3:24 PM 
To: Ralph (RBGlatt)  (3 of 18) 
 9281.3 in reply to 9281.2 

No, but since the child attended a Catholic parochial school, the judge said it would confuse the child to attend there, and have differing beliefs at home.

Very odd ruling.

Check out the article - if it's allowed to stand, and isn't struck down, it could signify a new way to oppress religious freedom.

...dictated by an "Activist Judge", of course - but, since he's Republican, and upholding "Christian" values, that term won't be applied by his cronies.

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From: Ralph (RBGlatt)5/26/05 3:32 PM 
To: GreyHawk (greyhawk121)  (4 of 18) 
 9281.4 in reply to 9281.3 
You're right, that *is* messed up.

From: Kirsten (koshugi)5/27/05 12:48 PM 
To: GreyHawk (greyhawk121)  (5 of 18) 
 9281.5 in reply to 9281.1 
That is nuts; I'll check it out when I get a chance. Thanks for letting us know about it. I thought Wicca was a mainstream religion; it's been around for a couple hundred years now hasn't it?

From: GreyHawk (greyhawk121) Posted by host5/27/05 1:12 PM 
To: Kirsten (koshugi)  (6 of 18) 
 9281.6 in reply to 9281.5 

I don't know that Wicca itself, as an established theology/spiritual path called 'Wicca', has been around for hundreds of years. But all the elements of the pagan traditions have been around for at least that long, and longer.

(I'm unfortunately drawing on imperfect memories - so hopefully someone with actual data or hard knowledge at their fingertips will confirm or deny what I wrote - and fill in more detail, as needed.)

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From: Kirsten (koshugi)5/27/05 1:14 PM 
To: GreyHawk (greyhawk121)  (7 of 18) 
 9281.7 in reply to 9281.6 
Yeah that'd be nice. I think it was founded in the 1700s or 1800s, and yes, of course Paganism in general has been around since the world has had people I would think. [Edited for clarity.]
  • Edited 5/27/2005 1:15 pm ET by Melamine /Heartagram (koshugi)

From: MythBlade (Talismonger)5/27/05 8:06 PM 
To: Kirsten (koshugi)  (8 of 18) 
 9281.8 in reply to 9281.7 

Wicca, as it is today, has been around since the 1950's or so, following a book published by Gardner.

The Pagan traditions Wicca is based on have been around for over 60,000 years.


From: Kirsten (koshugi)5/28/05 12:24 PM 
To: MythBlade (Talismonger)  (9 of 18) 
 9281.9 in reply to 9281.8 
60 000? That's a nice ripe old age. ;)

From: MythBlade (Talismonger)5/29/05 3:52 AM 
To: Kirsten (koshugi)  (10 of 18) 
 9281.10 in reply to 9281.9 
That's a conservative estimate. Goddess-centered and earth-centered artifacts have been found dating back to the ice age.

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