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The 1619 Lesson   History and Archaeology

Started 18/6/22 by Apollonius (Theocritos); 4771 views.

From: maxi4


Apollonius (Theocritos) said:

Renowned historians have soundly refuted her many falsehoods and fantasies.

Name a few, pal. Thank you very much.

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Many historians have been noted in the links I've provided on this thread, but this piece from today links to a handy guide to debunking the claims of the 1619 Project.

... Concerned parents need guides to effectively respond to these anti-racist curricula, and thankfully scholar Mary Grabar has written one, called Debunking The 1619 Project: Exposing the Plan to Divide America. Grabar, who has crossed swords with 1619 Project creator Nikole Hannah-Jones so many times that NHJ blocked her on Twitter, offers a careful rebuke to the problematic (and often erroneous) claims of CRT. Grabar explains: “We must understand The 1619 Project: its divisive aims and its dishonest methods, its sweeping historical misjudgments and its blatant errors of fact. And we must drive its lies and its poisonous race-baiting out of public institutions, beginning with the official curricula of our schools.”

The early chapters of the book deal with the historical inaccuracies and irresponsible reductionism of the many articles that appeared in the original essays published in the New York Times Magazine. (Tellingly, a lot of the language from the project was deleted or changed following public backlash and critiques from respected professional historians, who said the authors had replaced history with ideology.) For example, put on the defensive by a backlash to her claims that 1619, and not 1776, is America’s true founding, NHJ at one point claimed the 1619 Project “does not argue that 1619 is our true founding.” Yet Hannah-Jones herself had previously tweeted, “I argue that 1619 is our true founding.”

The blatant historical errors have been well covered elsewhere, so I’ll just name a few. The 1619 Project argues that the colonies declared independence “to protect the institution of slavery,” though there’s just about no historical evidence to substantiate that. It asserts that American slavery was “unlike anything that had existed in the world before,” though any cursory survey of the ancient world, medieval and post-medieval Africa, and the Ottoman Empire puts that idea to rest. Slave traders from the Barbary Coast alone enslaved and brutalized more than one million Southern Europeans between 1500 and 1800. And NHJ fundamentally misreads the effect of the 1857 Dred Scott Supreme Court decision, which, far from “enshrining” the idea that blacks were a “slave race,” likely expedited the peculiar institution’s demise, given that the Civil War began only four years later.

Debunking the 1619 Project contains other information that is perhaps less well known. This includes the fact that, contra NHJ’s claims of intellectual novelty, black Americans have been discussing and memorializing the arrival of a Portuguese slave ship at Jamestown in 1619 for well over a century. There’s also the complicated fact that many blacks profitably participated as slave owners in the antebellum Southern economy (Grabar doesn’t mention it, but so did many Native Americans). That by no means excuses the sins of white slaveholders, but it certainly muddles the Manichean narrative preached by anti-racist ideologues.

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But based on the other posts you have made to this forum, I rate you as not actually interested in the subject, and in fact, no more than a troll.

Please do not post to me.

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From: Sylveria


Intriguing; I was looking for something that brings everything up to date for my mom! 


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Virtue Hoarders is a short little book about the betrayal of progressives and the professional managerial class (PMC) against the people they have at least in the past claimed to want to empower:  wage workers and others in the middle reaches and bottom of America's socio-economic groupings.   The author is an old-line socialist who writes forcefully against the woke 'progressive' ideologues who have, with their emphasis on race, gender, climate emergency, and other distractions, sold out the workers of the world.

Catherine Liu writes a bitter polemic against these traitors to the working class and though the book is only 89 pages long, manages to denounce a good many of the people and institutions which pass for 'liberals' and to fight for democracy.

There's an interesting chapter called "Transgressing" the Boundaries of Professionalism where Liu writes about the 1619 Project.   She begins with a discussion of private foundations, which we will all be hearing more about as people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerman, George Soros, and a long list of extremely wealthy people come to the end of their lives and donate most of their legacy to these foundations.  In reading the details I was impressed with how much this phenomenon resembles what happened in the late Roman Empire when wealthy landowners (land and slaves were the only really tangible wealth in ancient times) gave their properties along with the slaves to the Church.  Within only a couple of generations the Church was by far the richest and strongest institution in Rome, in many respects surpassing the power of the state.

Take, for example, the role a once obscure private foundation, the Pulitzer Center, played in catapulting the 1619 Project into the center of the national debate about race, slavery, and the teaching and framing of American history.  The Pulitzer Center allegedly "raises awareness of underreported global issues through direct support of quality journalism across all media platforms and a unique program of education and public outreach."  The Pulitzer Center's most prolific donor is Emily Rauh Pulitzer and the Emily Rauh Pulitzer Foundation.  Widow of the newspaperman Joseph Pulitzer, Rauh Pulitzer is also a major donor to the arts.  

In 2019, the Pulitzer Center collaborated with the New York Times Magazine to launch the 1619 Project, directed by journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones.  The Project was launched to commemorate the four-hundreth anniversary of the arrival of the first enslaved peoples in the American colonies--for its collaborators, the real birthday of the United States of America.  

Liu writes about 'transgressive' journals of the past, which offered alternative views and titillated their audience with contrarian views, much the way we see some bloggers doing today.

Just as the editors of Social Text and their colleagues were happy to transgress the norms of the scientific and mathematical communities two decades ago, the 1619 Project rejects the norms of historical research.  In the case of the 1619 Project, however, the New York Times is not a small academic journal: the fear of offending the powerful forces, funders and donors who support the Project through private foundations, has cast a pall over the debate around its findings.  The authors of the Project reject all criticism of it: they believe that their findings do not depend on the research consensus and archival evidence sorted through by a scholarly community of historians.  Using her new clout and massive audience, Nikole Hannah-Jones led the way in dismissing the accepted scholarship that had been done on colonial America as simply the highly biased work of white males.  Lifetimes of careful, empirical research were simply no match for massive foundation dollars backed by one of the largest media companies in the world.


The Project is on top of everything, a bold attempt to eliminate historical materialism from the teaching and writing of American history while destroying the possibility of solidarity in the American working class.  Socialist historians on the pages of the World Socialist West Site ( have been some of the Project's most vocal and astute critics, but their work is not supported or funded by a dense and tangled network of foundations and media elites.  The Project wants to lay out a subtle but clear lesson for its readers: the impossibility of working-class solidarity.

-- Catherine Liu, Virtue Horders: The Case Against the Professional Managerial Class (University of Minnesota Press, 2021)


From: drl0lip0p


The major sickness in everyone lives is the known WOKENESS virus!!

WHEN WILL IT STOP??    persevere


From: Guard101


Now that is nice of you to let us have it all in words, it makes a huge difference.


From: Bab6s


This is BIG, in every sense of the word!

So glad to live through factual historical journalism.


  • Edited 08 December 2022 14:02  by  Bab6s