The world in a Sand Grain

Hosted by Sand_Grain

Current debate about contemporary life, ancient historical issues, and just about everything in between in different languages

  • 1114
  • 43696
  • 2


The 1619 Lesson   History and Archaeology

Started 18/6/22 by Apollonius (Theocritos); 6785 views.
In reply toRe: msg 1

... But the Golden Age of Revision is not over. San Francisco African American Reparations Advisory Committee has issued a report recommending that each black resident of the city receive a lump sum payment of $5 million. This payment is intended as reparation for the “forced enslavement of people of African descent.” Notably, slavery was never legal in California — and whatever injustices people of African descent suffered in California’s past, slavery wasn’t one of them.

It is perhaps nice that San Francisco wants to make up for injustices committed by others elsewhere, but the Advisory Committee is more revisionist than that. The payment in this case is meant “to encompass not only the atrocities committed by this country during the era of chattel slavery, but also call out the role of government in creating and perpetuating poverty by codifying racist practices in housing policy, particularly during the postwar era of urban history in the 1950s through 1970s known as urban renewal.”

The “racist practices” in question are summarized in the report as “a legacy of civic divestment” from the 1940s onward in which “black wealth was undermined” and “near-exclusive black communities” were “facilitated and coddled.” The terminology is a bit confusing, but the “coddling” appears to mean forced segregation, which indeed was a bad thing.

I wouldn’t dissent from this summary, nor, having no expertise in this era of San Francisco history, would I endorse it. But I bow in admiration at the audacity of the revisionary spirit. San Francisco, like the rest of the country, certainly had a history in which racial discrimination played a significant part, but when the Advisory Committee gets to more recent times, it acts in the spirit of the 1619 Project by turning huge achievements in civil rights upside down. In 1996, California voters by a wide margin passed Proposition 209, banning racial preferences. It outlawed racial discrimination, but in the eyes of the Committee this outlawing of racial discrimination was itself racial discrimination: “The passage of Proposition 209 undermines black-owned businesses that seek to obtain public contracts with the State of California and local governments.”

The idea of paying current black residents of San Francisco $5 million each regardless of any personal injury or injustice they may have suffered fits perfectly well with the collectivist mindset that has seized so many Americans. One might think that San Franciscans with any shred of common sense or spirit of actual justice would laugh this proposal to scorn. But those sort of San Franciscans have spent the last few years withdrawing inland, or moving to Colorado, Montana or Texas. Those who are left may be too mesmerized by their reflections in mirrors as people of transcendental wokeness to grasp that they are being set up for revisionist plunder.


From: drl0lip0p


The reperations should been done a couple of generations ago, as people were still living into the same mood, not now. 

 We -the recent generation had nothing to do with this. fearfulthumbsup


From: maxi4


A couple of generations ago black people had to sit in the back of the bus. How do you think reparations would have played back then, ace? 

In reply toRe: msg 40

From: drl0lip0p


Are you kidding me?

I wasn't born yet a couple of generations ago.

The back of a bus?  boom

My dad always said it's safer to sit in the back of a vehicle,  because when there's an accident crash, the front gets hit first!  


From: maxi4


Are you black? Because if you are, that's where you had to sit. Unless, of course, your dad was sitting in your seat.

  • Edited 06 June 2023 14:21  by  maxi4
Myra (MKratz)

From: Myra (MKratz)


Seen that we are living in an era where our ancestors left us the LEGACY to pay for all the criminal actions they have done!