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Why Are We in Ukraine?   Discussions

Started 27/10/22 by Apollonius (Theocritos); 8365 views.
Myra (MKratz)

From: Myra (MKratz)

2/11/22

There are so many developments about Russia and Putin's invasions in the Ukraine with all the refugees around the world by the globalists mentra, it is almost impossible to focus on one issue about that matter. 

I mainly focus on how avoidable it all was and how the Biden administration and its antecedents (Obama, H. Clinton) along with the State Dept., Defense Dept., and a miscellany of Washington bureaucrats, party hacks, and media promoters have been determined to pursue this war, both as part of their object for U.S. hegemony, but even more importantly as part of their tightening of control over populations in the West, especially as that relates to energy consumption and their insistence on 'green' energy solutions, which will only work to support a small elite class while the rest of us devolve into a Third World standard of living.

Heather (HeatherW33)

From: Heather (HeatherW33)

3/11/22

At one time when the war began, we heard that one country or another was helping Ukraine militarily without insisting on the types of armament provided. But now that the Ukrainian army is making significant progress, discretion is no longer appropriate. On the different side, it is time to more clearly position the names of the arsenals that make the difference on the front line, because success on the battlefield is the pride and the selling point of the weaponry industry.

 

Dot_hoe

From: Dot_hoe

3/11/22

You explained it all so beautifully... 

Heather (HeatherW33)

From: Heather (HeatherW33)

4/11/22

Sadly more Wars are in the forecast, initiated by the same radical Globalists. 

 confounded

In reply toRe: msg 10

Kyiv planning for total evacuation if it loses electricity - Marc Santora and Ben Hubbard, New York Times, 5 November 2022
https://archive.ph/Mnym2

The city is also establishing 1,000 heating centers for its 3 million residents, as Russia pounds away at civilian targets.


KYIV, Ukraine — As they struggle to maintain an electricity grid heavily damaged by Russian missiles, officials in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, say they have begun planning for a once unthinkable possibility: a complete blackout that would require the evacuation of the city’s approximately three million remaining residents.

The situation is already so dire, with 40 percent of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure damaged or destroyed, that municipal workers are setting up 1,000 heating shelters that can double as bunkers while engineers try to fix bombed-out power stations without the needed equipment.

To try to keep the grid from failing altogether, Ukraine’s national energy utility said on Saturday that it would continue to impose rolling blackouts in seven regions.

The article continues with claims of Russia targeting civilians, but we don't know that.   We do know that para-military groups in Ukraine have been targeting civilians for many years.

As a matter of fact the problems with Ukraine's electrical grid go beyond direct targeting by Russian forces.  It appears to simply be in the process of a general meltdown from multiple causes.

In reply toRe: msg 16

A lot of information relating to the Bidens and their circle in part II.

Dot_hoe

From: Dot_hoe

8/11/22

Once war starts it never ends,,,

Dot_hoe

From: Dot_hoe

8/11/22

Every strict necessity is cut, typical NAZI warmongers! angry

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Abstract:

This study examines evidence revealed by the ongoing trial and government investigations concerning the Maidan massacre in Ukraine. The massacre of the protesters and the police during the “Euromaidan” mass protests in February 2014 contributed to the overthrow of the Ukrainian government and ultimately to a start of the civil war in Donbas, Russian military interventions in Crimea and Donbas, the Russian annexation of Crimea and an international conflict between the West and Russia. The research question is as follows: What does evidence made public by the Maidan massacre trials and Ukrainian government investigations reveal about which of the parties of the conflict was involved in this mass killing? This paper analyzes several hundred hours of video recordings of the Maidan massacre trials and information concerning investigations of this massacre in over 2,500 court decisions from the official court decisions database in Ukraine. It examines trial and investigation testimonies of wounded protesters, relatives of the killed protesters, prosecution and defense witnesses, and top officials of the Yanukovych government. The study also analyzes results of forensic ballistic and medical examinations and investigative experiments, and videos and photos of the Maidan massacre made public during the trial. It includes several online video appendixes. They contain testimonies of wounded protesters and witnesses concerning snipers in Maidan-controlled locations and content analyses of synchronized segments of American, Belgian, Belarusian, British, Finish, French, Dutch, German, Polish, Russian, Spanish, and Ukrainian TV videos, recordings of live online broadcasts, and social media videos of this crucial massacre.

The Maidan massacre trials and investigations have revealed various evidence that four killed and several dozen wounded policemen and at least the absolute majority of 49 killed and 157 wounded Maidan protesters were massacred on February 20, 2014 by snipers in Maidan-controlled buildings and areas. Such evidence includes testimonies of the absolute majority of wounded protesters, several dozens of prosecution witnesses, dozens of defense witnesses, and 14 self-admitted members of Maidan snipers groups. Videos presented at the trial showed that times of shooting of the absolute majority of protesters did not coincide with times of shooting by the Berkut policemen, who were charged with their massacre. Forensic medical examinations determined that the overwhelming majority of the protesters were shot from steep directions from the sides or the back. Initial ballistic examinations did not match bullets extracted from the bodies of killed and wounded protesters to the Berkut Kalashnikovs. Forensic examinations of the bullet holes by the government experts for the Maidan massacre trial suggested that Berkut policemen were shooting in the Hotel Ukraina snipers above the Maidan protesters and in trees and poles. The analysis shows cover-up and stonewalling of the investigations and trials by the Maidan governments and the far right. The prosecution denied that there were any snipers in the Maidan-controlled buildings. Not a single person is convicted or under arrest for the massacre of the protesters and the police almost 8 years after one of the most documented mass killings in history.

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