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Why Are We in Ukraine?   Discussions

Started 27-Oct by Apollonius (Theocritos); 4704 views.

It will last so long as the elites are making money from it and the media continues to promote it.

Eventually, maybe sooner than later, perhaps when they are without enough power to heat and light their homes, the people will have had enough.

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... The preferred outcome for some is a Russia rendered impotent by the war. I disagree. For all its propensity to violence, Russia has made decisive contributions to the global equilibrium and to the balance of power for over half a millennium. Its historical role should not be degraded. Russia’s military setbacks have not eliminated its global nuclear reach, enabling it to threaten escalation in Ukraine. Even if this capability is diminished, the dissolution of Russia or destroying its ability for strategic policy could turn its territory encompassing 11 time zones into a contested vacuum. Its competing societies might decide to settle their disputes by violence. Other countries might seek to expand their claims by force. All these dangers would be compounded by the presence of thousands of nuclear weapons which make Russia one of the world’s two largest nuclear powers.

As the world’s leaders strive to end the war in which two nuclear powers contest a conventionally armed country, they should also reflect on the impact on this conflict and on long-term strategy of incipient high–technology and artificial intelligence. Auto-nomous weapons already exist, capable of defining, assessing and targeting their own perceived threats and thus in a position to start their own war.

Once the line into this realm is crossed and hi-tech becomes standard weaponry – and computers become the principal executors of strategy – the world will find itself in a condition for which as yet it has no established concept. How can leaders exercise control when computers prescribe strategic instructions on a scale and in a manner that inherently limits and threatens human input? How can civilisation be preserved amid such a maelstrom of conflicting information, perceptions and destructive capabilities?

No theory for this encroaching world yet exists, and consultative efforts on this subject have yet to evolve – perhaps because meaningful negotiations might disclose new discoveries, and that disclosure itself constitutes a risk for the future. Overcoming the disjunction between advanced technology and the concept of strategies for controlling it, or even understanding its full implications, is as important an issue today as climate change, and it requires leaders with a command of both technology and history.

The quest for peace and order has two components that are sometimes treated as contradictory: the pursuit of elements of security and the requirement for acts of reconciliation. If we cannot achieve both, we will not be able to reach either. The road of diplomacy may appear complicated and frustrating. But progress to it requires both the vision and the courage to undertake the journey.

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From: BarthaS


How is the US helping Ukraine?

The US has been providing foreign aid to Ukraine since the 1990s, averaging nearly $200 million a year.

This aid declined in the 2000s. Since the war in Ukraine that followed the Maidan revolution in 2014, US development aid has increased sharply again: on average to US$ 320 million per year.


From: BarthaS


Wie helfen die USA der Ukraine?

Die USA haben bereits in den 1990er-Jahren der Ukraine Entwicklungshilfe geleistet, durchschnittlich in Höhe von knapp 200 Millionen US-Dollar pro Jahr.Diese Hilfe ging in den 2000er-Jahren zurück.

Seit dem Krieg in der Ukraine im Anschluss an die Maidan-Revolution 2014 wurde die US-Entwicklungshilfe wieder stark aufgestockt: im Schnitt auf 320 Millionen US-Dollar pro Jahr.


From: AuntBetsie


The military is a lucrative business

Militären är en lukrativ verksamhet

Mills in the Medieval Economy

England 1300-1540
By John Langdon · 2004

The late medieval English milling industry epitomizes one of the most important technical achievements of early societies: the exploitation of wind, water and muscle power for augmenting human endeavours.


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From: Not a (Pinck0)


Thank you for the update 


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From: Not a (Pinck0)



The US began deporting Brazilian opposition leaders back to Brazil this week and the Lula Gulags.  This is taking place at the same time that as evidence was presented that the January 8 riots in Brazilia were staged. Brazil observer and activist Matt Tyrmand said: “They are going full Gulag. This is the worst Communist takeover ever"


From: BarthaS


Something that has to be read - absolutely

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US elites steadily leading the country closer to World War III. Why aren't we talking about this?

Dreher links to the Twitter comments of David P. Goldman, whose essays I have referenced many times:

Ukraine might have 23mn residents left vs. prewar paper total of 43mn, $1 tr of damage on a $120 bn GDP, and a failing military position. The Ghost of Richelieu told me a year ago that Putin would erase Ukraine as a country.

Goldman wrote these two essays back in April and I posted them on several forums.  They are both important reading and maybe even more relevant now as they were 10 months ago: