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Why Are We in Ukraine?   Discussions

Started 27/10/22 by Apollonius (Theocritos); 11627 views.

From: Bab6s


Very compassionate for human life... thumbsup


From: AuntBetsie


Far too many global wars running all at the same time!

"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."

`` Winston Churchill

You’d have to ask the guy who texted those words. His name is Tucker Carlson 


From: maxi4


Oh. Okay. Thanks. I use quotation marks. You should do the same.

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The much vaunted spring offensive took forever to get started and quickly bogged down to another stalemate.

Even the New York Times is having cannot maintain optimism about where things are going:

After suffering heavy losses, Ukrainians paused to rethink strategy -  Lara Jakes, Andrew E. Kramer and Eric Schmitt, New York Times, 15 July 2023

Early in the counteroffensive, Ukraine lost as much as 20 percent of its weapons and armor. The rate dropped as the campaign slowed and commanders shifted tactics.

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In a sure sign of desperation the Biden administration and its NATO allies are ready to commit war crimes.  They are now shipping cluster bombs for use by the Ukrainian forces in their war effort.

Years from now Ukrainian children will have their legs and heads blown off by some of these unexploded bombs and Democrats will blame Trump.

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A sure sign that things are going very badly for Ukraine and that the plans which the U.S. and NATO had for the country are not working out, is the sudden appearance (and reappearance) of several leading articles on this morning's CBC which are now beginning to question the war:

It's now about a month and a half.  The counteroffensive got nowhere.

Russian support for the war is as strong as ever, in fact growing:

... whereas even Western elites are beginning to have serious doubts about the wisdom of this misadventure: