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What Are You Working On Now?   General Discussion

Started 11/19/17 by MarciainMD; 267312 views.
Midkid5

From: Midkid5

12/6/19

Thank you very much for all the information.  I have been scanning family photos off n on for the last few years.  My mom has the photos and they are in no order what so ever...old photos early 1900 thru 1990 all thrown together in old plastic bread bags.  I started organizing n scanning then mom decided to put away and undid the organizing.

At some point someone took the old pictures out of the old black page albums, there had been info written under the pictures...lost.

Thanks again for info.

Jo

Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

From: Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

12/6/19

Midkid5 said:

At some point someone took the old pictures out of the old black page albums, there had been info written under the pictures...lost.

aaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!   ::banging head on the wall::

latterberry

From: latterberry

12/6/19

You may have thought it lengthy, but I found it interesting.  What a lot of work, b ut it sounds like something you enjoy.  A labor of love.  

I wouldn't worry about your girls not being interested right now--they are young.  Give them time.  When my folks talked about "the old days" I wasn't all that interested and now that they are gone, I wish I would have paid more attention and documented things.  (like my dad walking around the Enola Gay a few days before she took off on the biggest mission of WWII.)  It saddens me that I missed so much by not showing interest, so years down the road when the girls have matured more--they will appreciate it.  

A while back 2 of my kids and I really got into our ancestry.  I already had a lot of documentation on my dad's side but got even further with Ancestry.com.  Legend carried down on dad's side is that we are descendants of Martin Luther (the reformer of the 1500s --not King!) . Not documented, but would be fun to do more research.  Now you have me interested in getting back in to it.

Where in Illinois does your cousin live?   

Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

From: Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

12/6/19

latterberry said:

I already had a lot of documentation on my dad's side but got even further with Ancestry.com.  ...  Now you have me interested in getting back in to it.

It's absolutely AMAZING what you can find on Ancestry!  I made a false assumption early on, when I was first researching, years ago.  I found a lot of official documentation and was thrilled to find them.  I thought that was all there was.  Fast forward to current times .... I didn't realize (although I should have) that Ancestry is *constantly* adding new items, as they are digitized.  On a lark, I did some more searching.  Lo and behold .. HOLY MOLEY! .. there were more official documents!  i was over the moon.  Now, I log back into Ancestry just to see if anything new is there.

Also, get yourself a trial subscription to Newspapers.com   It's a REAL eye-opener.  I was researching one of Mr. Pirate's lines when they lived in Kansas (Coffey and Osborne county) in the late 1880s.  These were just regular people: no special offices held,  no special recognitions.  But .. geez, Louise!   Those regional newspapers were just like little old biddies.  They reported EVERYTHING.  EVERY article was a sentence.   A person broke a hand.  A barn burned down.  Won a prize at a local contest.  Hosted a party.  Took a trip to see relatives.     It was darn near if you sneezed, it was reported.

BUT .. the upside was that I found a large number of references to Mr. Pirate's family members over a series of years.  One sibling relation took a box of Kansas dirt to the Illinois State Fair because Kansas dirt was so special.  I kid you not.   

So, I "clipped" those articles, saving the newspaper name and date and printed them out.  It was a fascinating addition to the scrapbook.

Once that family moved to California (San Bernardino county), the newspaper references became less but that could be because there were more real stories to report on  or they lived in a REALLY rural area, far outside of town.  I don't know.   But in any case, it is amazing what was reported.

One extremely interesting story involved a sister of Mr. Pirate's maternal grandmother.  The family story was that this sister committed suicide.  Very hush, hush, as you can imagine, as this was in 1908.  But, you gotta take family stories with a grain of salt, especially if they've been carried down over decades.  Well, doing a blanket research for the surname in a particular city, I found *2* very long articles about this woman.  !!!!    She was only 17 when she died, so *why* on earth would she have warranted two separate articles in a large circulation newspaper?   Well, it turned out that she was obsessed with gambling in the Chinese gambling halls.  Her young husband objected.  On Thanksgiving Day, 1908, he hauled her out of a gambling den and berated her (probably not the first time).  There was (another) huge argument.  She stomped out of the room in high dudgeon.  Some time later, the husband heard loud groans from the other room.  Entering, he found his young wife, writhing in agony on the floor.  Apparently, in an effort to "show him", she **swallowed some carbolic acid**.    Yeah, real smart.  She didn't make it.   So, in this case, the family story was absolutely true, much to my astonishment and to the astonishment of another family member who originally gave me the suicide reference.  I never would have known that story if it hadn't been for Newspapers.com.

I did 7 day trial run and went full tilt during that time, searching for anyone in all of my family lines and clipping/saving/printing the references.  All grist for my scrapbooking mill.  :-)

Where in Illinois does your cousin live?   

In Northbrook, IL.

judyinohio

From: judyinohio

12/6/19

Our DD has been using Ancestry.com and she found the ancestor that verified a bit of oral history that my DH's father had passed along.

Supposedly, according to DH's father, his many times great-granddaddy was kicked out of Scotland for being a horse thief. I always took that tale of my father-in-law's with a grain of salt because I thought a man would be hung for being a horse thief back in the old days.

Lo and behold, DD found on Ancestry.com one Thomas (of the family line) who was transported to the Carolinas in 1720 something for horse thievery.  Name of the ship, name of the man he was "bound to" for indentured servitude, etc. etc.

DH was tickled pink to learn that the story is based in fact.

judyinohio

From: judyinohio

12/6/19

My mother's mother died when I was sixteen and we drove home from New York to Indiana for her funeral. My mom was naturally quite upset over her mother's death but she became even more distraught when she picked up her mother's very old Bible and saw that it was empty of all the newspaper clippings my grandmother had saved over the decades.  All of the family obituaries she had lovingly clipping out of all the local newspapers were gone. 

My grandfather had gone through the Bible and thrown them away because they were all yellow and brittle.  It was the first time I had ever seen my mother shout at her father. My dad had to take her out of the house ...

CozyQuilts

From: CozyQuilts

12/6/19

The past few days I have been wrapping gifts and  mailing them or delivering them next door.  We celebrate at my daughter's house as she is allergic to our cats.  Today is also their birthday, my twins are 38 years old today!  Now that the last gift is wrapped my table is now clear for cutting and sewing.  Next up, my SIL will be celebrating his 40th birthday on the 12th.  And yet another birthday on the 28th, my grandson who will be 16.  What a busy month.  

Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

From: Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

12/7/19

judyinohio said:

Our DD has been using Ancestry.com and she found the ancestor that verified a bit of oral history that my DH's father had passed along.

Although that must have been horrifying to the family members who were alive or within living memory, it makes for an outstanding discovery for *us*, many generations later.    A skeleton in the closet that we can be delighted over. :-)

Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

From: Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

12/7/19

judyinohio said:

All of the family obituaries she had lovingly clipping out of all the local newspapers were gone.  My grandfather had gone through the Bible and thrown them away because they were all yellow and brittle. 

oh geez.  I am so sad for your Mom.  I feel her rage, frustration, and anger.   :-(

But for you .. and anyone else who has actual newspaper clippings to preserve ... I found a DIY acid-neutralizing procedure that will stabilize the acid in the newspapers (but not reverse it or get rid of it).   To a quart of club soda  mix in 2 TBSP of liquid Milk of Magnesia (I used Phillips brand cuz it was the only one on the shelf).  Just pour the Milk of Magnesia into the quart bottle.  Recap and put bottle in the refrigerator overnight.   The next day, tip the bottle back and forth to mix up.  Pour solution into a non-reactive flat container, big enough to contain the newspaper article.  (I used a plastic 12x12 scrapbooking box because I have a lot of them.  Glass or ceramic baking dishes are also suitable)  Submerge the actual, honest-to-goodness newspaper article.  No need to hold your breath .. the ink will not run!  (as was my fear).  Let it soak for at least one hour.  Remove from the solution; blot on white paper towels to remove a lot of the moisture.  Then transfer (gently!) to a clean, flat surface to dry completely.

When dry, the newspaper article will be "acid stabilized".

However, the tutorial I used also advised to "encapsulate" the newspaper article if it was going to be put next to other media (such as paper, photos).  Although the acid has been stabilized, it is still there and can affect the other media.  To encapsulate simply means to fully enclose it in a protective sleeve, such as what is used for scrapbooking pages or photo albums.   I make custom sized ones by taking one of those scrapbooking protective sleeves and my wood-burning tool (scrapbookers also have a Fuse tool that is similar).  I put the newspaper article inside the sleeve and run the hot tip through both layers of the sleeve, next to the newspaper article.  The hot tip simultaneously cuts and fuses/melts the protective sleeve together.  Voila .. custom encapsulation.   I have a long, narrow slab of glass (with the edges wrapped so I don't cut myself) that I put under the sleeve.  The glass provides a VERY smooth surface that won't melt from the heat of the wood burning tool.   You don't necessarily need to do that step, just as long as the newspaper article is isolated from touching anything else.

If I remember correctly, the tutorial was comparing this to commercial de-acidifying sprays which are quite expensive for the amount of product that you get and the number of newspaper articles that you can preserve.  Apparently, the commercial products contain ... magnesium .. which is the active ingredient for acid stabilization.  Ergo, the reason why Milk of Magnesia is called for in the DIY solution.   

Midkid5

From: Midkid5

12/7/19

I just got home from spending two days with my mom, and of that about eight hours sorting and scanning photos.  Came across the name Tricia Jo on a couple photos of a little girl but mom had no idea who she was so filed in the box of unknowns. The next night I found another, mentioned it to mom, she tells me that's my cousin Patty .  Moms side of the family used their middle names part of their lives, multiply generations back, so that can make it hard to keep track of.  I know if someone met my mom before or after she was married by what name they use to address her by.

I found out that when one of my mom's aunt pasted, mom and a couple of her cousins cleared out her home, one cousin got there ahead of everyone else, just started throwing stuff in the garbage...including all the photos.......grrrrr

Jo

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