yes............and I am one of the Cloud suppporters,as learned all about the Wild Mustangs fr Ginger's Docs of them, so started in about '07 to try to save them..........after helping stop the Illinois slaughter house. 

And then  named my supported mustang in Wells Creek ,Minn, Cloud, for him.....had much dissent over that...........sad that he and his Dam, Phoenix, are gone, but did not know about his b'day...........so thanks for that.

Ginger witnessed his birth and recorded........