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New tactic, now torture the women.   Africa and the Middle East

Started Oct-15 by BerrySteph; 637 views.
BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Oct-15

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-palestinian-women-tell-how-israel-interrogates-them-1.7962123
Five of the women after their release. Sonya Hamori, left, Dina Karmi, Suzan Aweiwe, Lama Khater and Safaa Abu Sneineh.Courtesy of the family

"Rise and Kill First The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations" - by Ronen Bergman, translated by Ronnie Hope tells the story of how every male Palestinian not actively collaborating with the occupation was murdered.

Dagan [later head of Mossad] pretended to be a corpse and was carried by his comrades - two of them Palestinian collaborators and the others disguised as Arabs ... Once inside, they killed everyone. ... list of four hundred wanted men ... reduced to ten in 1972.

Once they're run out of men to kill, they started on the children - 30 years ago, Yitzhak Rabin (later murdered for being too soft on the Palestinians) rejoiced in ordering "break their bones".

Kidnap and torture of childen continues apace - but that's still not leading to enough ethnic cleansing, so the Zionists have been torturing the women as well.

'I'm the Man Who Killed Your Husband': Palestinian Women Recount Shin Bet Interrogations

For weeks, a team of 13 Shin Bet men interrogated women suspected of social activities linked to Hamas. Three filed torture complaints to the Justice Ministry after hundreds such cases were closed without charges. 

Oct 10, 2019  ... July 2018, Dina Karmi of Hebron, 40, was arrested on July 2 last year.

Before her another two women who were linked to her were arrested. On June 5, Suzan Aweiwe, 41, a member of the Hebron Municipal Council, was arrested. On June 18, it was Safaa Abu Sneineh, 38.

Lama Khater, who recently told Haaretz about her interrogation, was the fourth woman to be arrested. The Shin Bet attributed to all four membership in a Hamas women’s committee established by Karmi in 2010.

After what is described in the complaints as painful and humiliating arrests by soldiers, the four were immediately transferred for interrogation by the Shin Bet at Shikma Prison in Ashkelon.

... In the end, seven women were arrested on the same suspicion. Hino, the Justice Ministry lawyer, met with the three complainants in prison. At the end of August last year the Shin Bet released a dramatic statement about the exposure of a broad Hamas infrastructure that includes women receiving instructions from Hamas commanders and funding for terror activity.

The seven women have already been released to their homes after spending 10 to 12 months in prison following plea deals – less than the sentence first demanded by the military prosecution, 20 to 24 months. Experienced attorneys who represent defendants at military court say that such jail time is considered short, reflecting minor offenses, even according to the criteria of the Israeli military system: social and religious activity linked with Hamas, organizing and taking part in demonstrations, starting a Facebook page, distributing prayer books, visiting the families of prisoners.

Already upon Aweiwe’s arrest there was no suspicion of military activity posing an immediate danger to human life; the women who were arrested subsequently were also interrogated for social and civil activity linked to Hamas. The women’s testimonies, as worded in the complaints, spell out the daily worsening of their conditions.

“The interrogation became increasingly difficult as time passed,” according to a complaint filed for Karmi. “At first the plaintiff was interrogated by Andy alone, but other interrogators entered and left the room, claiming that they wanted to meet the wife of the shahid [martyr] Nashat al-Karmi.” (According to the Shin Bet, Karmi’s husband shot dead four people in the settlement of Beit Hagai in 2010, while wounding two people in another attack. After a manhunt, he was killed by Israeli soldiers.)

According to the complaint, “the hours of interrogation became longer and harsher with time, as did the ‘tone of the interrogation.’ The interrogators made various threats, including that she would remain there forever, would not go home and would receive a harsh punishment. After three days of interrogation, Andy was replaced by Haroun, who took charge of the interrogation. The interrogator Haroun used shouts, humiliation and contempt for the plaintiff and her husband.”

The three women’s complaints and Khater’s testimony present a similar pattern. Each was deprived of sleep by long interrogations (17 hours in Karmi’s case, 20 in Khater’s) or a variety of noises near the cell where they were kept in solitary confinement between interrogations. This included banging on the wall, loud conversations among the wardens and female wardens entering the cell every half hour “to ask if everything was all right,” according to Karmi, who said she “didn’t get an hour’s sleep without being awakened.”

Each was held in a sitting position for hours with her hands tied behind her. The interrogations included screaming and threats against the women and members of their families, as well as comments and hints at times of a clearly sexual nature.

In between the interrogations, each was held in solitary confinement in a dirty and smelly cell for several weeks. For a few days some were sent to a cell for a few days where conditions were even worse.

Aweiwe needed a doctor while she was in isolation. The doctor spoke to her through a small opening in the door and then received permission from Andy
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bml00

From: bml00

Oct-15

There are a myriad of Videos of Hamas women suicide bombers and also providers who take the operative to their chosen site , of course the site will be a café or bar or supermarket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXAwGeMys78

To imagine Hamas does not employ women in their operations is as naïve as it gets - of course your esteemed half wit would not know , his long term unemployment has given him time on his hands

A nice video of the gals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ-0OJgyHjs

BM

bml00

From: bml00

Oct-15

A proud mother of a killer who achieved nothing and was shot dead in the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG7r_bQgBdg

bml00

From: bml00

Oct-15

The child is being treated in an Israeli hospital and the Mother hopes the kid will grow up to kill Israelis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X38JLOks8Ho

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Oct-15

bml00 said:  There are a myriad of Videos of Hamas women suicide bombers

You lie - there are very few such bombers - and the videos are all worthless, made by people you've bludgeoned into collaboration.

The first female suicide bomber was in January 2002. Her name was Wafa Idris - the only daughter of a family of refugees who were driven out of their home near Tel Aviv. She was 28, an ambulance volunteer.

John Pilger talked to Khalil Idris, Wafa's brother, to ask, what makes an ambulance volunteer, a carer, become a suicide bomber?

"She'd tell us that someone had been killed and she'd seen his brains splattered all over the place or the inside of someone's stomach shot out. Or someone else who'd lost his leg. She was also upset by pregnant women forced to give birth at the checkpoint and then see their babies die there. She was also injured by rubber bullets. These were powerful incentives for her to avenge her people." https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0Q1dYUFXRWoC&pg=PT141

Doing only the same thing as you laud when Jews do it - https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-the-jewish-dancer-undressed-slowly-then-she-shot-an-ss-soldier-to-death-1.7758590

bml00

From: bml00

Oct-15

The videos exist they are real , Hamas has often used Women in their operations 

For the gormless prat such realities don’t mesh with his narrative but that is life .

BM

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Oct-15

bml00 said:

Hamas has often used Women in their operations 

You've murdered every nationalist male Palestinian who could possibly be "Hamas" - and now you've started on the women.

Be proud - this is the ethnic cleansing your own historians boast of.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Oct-16

Women have been getting the short end of the stick since Neanderthals walked the Earth.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Oct-16

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: Women have been getting the short end of the stick since Neanderthals walked the Earth.

Israel is the first nation on earth to systematically kidnap and torture children.

And the first to systematically do it to women.

But the real message is not the horror of what's going on - its the angry boasting that this is perfectly alright. 

It would not be alright if Hamas was a real  organisation - it cannot possibly be alright in a society where huge numbers of men have been murdered, the remainder are collaboratorators forced to spy on each other and there are no "political"  organisations of any kind.

There have been many bad regimes in the world - but there has never been an occupation as sadistic as this - one that touches and is glorified by every part of the ruling society.

We must be sick people to want anything to do with such monsters.

bml00

From: bml00

Oct-16

BerrySteph said:

It would not be alright if Hamas was a real organisation

Hamas are Boy scouts , you would have to walk a very long way to find a more stupid comment or more dishonest

BM

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