bml00 said:

It is amusing that the numbnuts defends OBL, Saddam , KJU , Eichmann , Hitler et al

It would be amusing if it were not so sick - you go to Fox News to justify this specific lie.

And you know its a lie - the same kind of thing you post all the time.

BerrySteph said:

But lets call out the real criminals instead of hitting on the victims again.

The REAL victims were the women and newborns in the maternity hospital.

The REAL criminals were the ones who shot them.

You are a perfect example of why the left is so despised.

No one is saying that living in a war-torn country is easy.  But in the end, the decision to act rests with the individual.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

The REAL criminals were the ones who shot them.

No, those people are people armed and driven to insanity by us. They may even be policemen paid for by us (but not from our money - from the heroin trade we now control there).

Things we did in Afghanistan that were *GUARANTEED* to increase crime and disorder and attacks on women.

When we went back there this time, women could safely walk the length of the country.

Now women cannot walk past a police station.

You know its true.

Berry, we agree to disagree.

You believe no one is responsible for their own actions when there is a way to blame the US.

I believe at the end of the day we all make our own choices.

BerrySteph said:

You know its true.

Every time you spout absolute bullshit and end it with this sentence, you look like an idiot.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

You believe no one is responsible for their own actions when there is a way to blame the US.

I believe that the US deliberately plunges entire nations into chaos and suffering.

And its conduct in Afghanistan from 1979 was exceptionally evil. The repercussions have reverberated down to today - and hideously impacted the Muslims of China.

The appalling arming of terrorists in Afghanistan did hideous things to the Soviet Union as well - Americans crow about what they did - then angrily denounce the consequences of their own actions and the elevation of Putin as a tyrant.

You know its true. Very occasionally Americans recognise the evil of what they've done.

... Upon arriving at Con Son, Luce and his entourage were greeted by the prison warden, Colonel Nguyen Van Ve. Harkins presented Ve with a list of six prisoners the congressmen wished to visit in Camp Four.

While inside this section of the prison, Luce located the door to the tiger cages hidden behind a woodpile at the edge of a vegetable garden. Ve and Walton protested this departure from the guided tour, their exclamations prompting a guard inside the tiger cage section to open the door, revealing its contents.

The congressmen entered and saw stone compartments five feet wide, nine feet long, and six feet high. Access to the tiger cages was gained by climbing steps to a catwalk, then looking down between iron grates. From three to five men were shackled to the floor in each cage. All were beaten, some mutilated. Their legs were withered, and they scuttled like crabs across the floor, begging for food, water, and mercy. Some cried. Others told of having lime buckets, which sat ready above each cage, emptied upon them.

Ve denied everything. The lime was for whitewashing the walls, he explained, and the prisoners were evil people who deserved punishment because they would not salute the flag. Despite the fact that Congress funded the GVN's Directorate of Corrections, Walton accused the congressmen of interfering in Vietnamese affairs. Congressman Hawkins expressed the hope that American POWs were being better treated in Hanoi.

The extent of the tiger cage flap was a brief article in The New York Times that was repudiated by U.S. authorities. The following excerpt from The Phoenix Program, by Douglas Valentine, is from Chapter 24: "Transgressions". It deals with the My Lai massacre and the infamous "Tiger Cages." http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/vietnamgenocide/MyLaiPhoenix.html

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo welcomes the end of a months-long political stalemate after Afghanistan's President strikes a deal with his rival.

This solution imposed with American guns is guaranteed to extend the agony and make the eventual fate of the puppet governments even more hideous.

The US intervention in Afghanistan was to counter the Russian invasion which numbnuts forgets about (what vietnam has to do with all of this is beyond me)

BM

So, because this happened in Vietnam, anyone who is not an American has the right to shoot an newborn baby in the face.

Got it.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

So, because this happened in Vietnam, anyone who is not an American has the right to shoot an newborn baby in the face. Got it.

Americans set out to bring chaos and suffering to Afghanistan in 1979 and again in 2001.

To blame the victims is shocking.