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Started 11/8/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 17833 views.
In reply toRe: msg 9
bml00

From: bml00

4/14/20

More ACCEPTED RACISM on the Forum

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

4/14/20

bml00 said:

More ACCEPTED RACISM on the Forum

White genocidal Europeans like you and I are the problem.

I'm protesting my part in this - I think its disgusting and horrific and I feel that I personally am more guilty than 1930s German (living in a dictatorship!) were for the genocide that started on their watch.

bml00

From: bml00

4/14/20

Please do something for heaven sake 

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

4/15/20

bml00 said:

Please do something for heaven sake

Berry's use of the words "brown people" is obviously not coming from a place of his own racism, rather he is pointing out that anyone who is not white is usually discriminated against in the Western World.

It's pretty bloody obvious.

And the post you were bitching about was on topic.

There, I've done something.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

4/15/20

A lot to unpack there...

BerrySteph said:

Over and over again, terrorists say the same thing - Saddam is the problem, Gaddafi is the problem, the Taliban are the problem, Ho Chi Minh was the problem.

Yes, and they were right.

BerrySteph said:

Assad is the problem, the Ayatollahs are the problem.

Right again.

Others, clearly, become a matter of politics.

Anyone guilty of mass murder is a problem.

I am sure you would put the US in that category.

But there is a difference between the US fighting in a war with allies and the actions of a mass murderer like KJU.

Oh, and you forgot to add Pol Pot to the list of poor little politicians who got a bad wrap.

bml00

From: bml00

4/15/20

Berry is lucky he has You - on any forum where colored people were TOS would be here in seconds

I love the ERULDITE defence

feel proud

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

4/15/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

A lot to unpack there... BerrySteph said: Over and over again, terrorists say the same thing - Saddam is the problem ... Yes, and they were right. 

Why was Saddam a problem? He was an Islamic dictator as we must hate and fear? No, he wasn't - his rule was secular. Tariq Aziz was a Christian until we murdered him too. Under Saddam girls went to school, minorities were protected and alcohol was sold. The archaeology of the cradle of civilisation was protected.

Have we done better than Saddam or have we created a Holocaust II with at least 2 million people murdered for the sake of being brown?

Was Saddam a problem because he'd attacked Iran? You don't believe that. Or if you do believe it, I can very quickly put you straight. 

Was Saddam a problem because he invaded Kuwait? Maybe - but that ignores the elephant in the room - the US gave him the green light to do it. Three times the US did that, Glaspie, Tuttweiler and Kelly, once in Baghdad, twice in Washington.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

A lot to unpack there... BerrySteph said: ...  Gaddafi is the problem ... Assad is the problem

I can't defend Gaddafi - except to say he was so much better than the puppets we're trying to prop up now.

But I can defend Assad - a secular dictatorship we've tried and partly succeeded into turning into another Beardy Head-Chopping Central.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Others, clearly, become a matter of politics. 

I don't know what you mean - what have Hamas or Hezbollah ever done to us?

So benign is the stronger of the two gangs to our interests that we have to falsely accuse it of a bombing in Argentina (clue - the only picture you've ever seen shows the explosion having been from within the building - the belated claim that the car drove in there before exploding would be unique in history and is totally unsupported).

The Bulgaria Burgas bombing looks like an own goal by a gang of dedicated assassins. Lets say it again - Hamas and Hezbollah have never attacked anyone other than Israel - and that only in feeble retaliation (until 2006, not so feeble - also successful, so far).

Oh, and I believe (its actually proved) that Ostrovsky was a Mossad member - and I believe the throw-away story he tells (in both books) that it was the Israelis who killed the 241 American marines and 70 odd French soldiers in Beirut Bombings 1983. Hezbollah only existed in Iran at the time - arrived in Lebanon with a press conference in 1985.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Anyone guilty of mass murder is a problem. I am sure you would put the US in that category. But there is a difference between the US fighting in a war with allies and the actions of a mass murderer like KJU. 

There's a huge difference between those actions - we murdered some 5 million Koreans in order to colonise their country. KJU couldn't possibly be as as evil as we've been. He's only survived because he can retaliate - the only reason that Saddam and Gaddafi were murdered.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Oh, and you forgot to add Pol Pot to the list of poor little politicians who got a bad wrap.

Pol Pot was never attacked by us - Vietnam took him down in 1979 and we continued to recognise him until at least 1991 and effectively to his death.

Is there any part of my thesis you wish to explore in any more depth or do you prefer I put on a tin-foil helmet?

How about 911 - I hate the conspiracy theorists because they've covered up the massive scandal of Bush & Cheney, at the least, opening the door for it to happen.

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

4/15/20

bml00 said:

I love the ERULDITE defence

You might have posted that deliberately?

I'm not sure, I've caught you out so often and so ridiculously that I'm no longer really prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

4/17/20

bml00 said:

Berry is lucky he has You - on any forum where colored people were TOS would be here in seconds

I love the ERULDITE defence

feel proud

First of all, it's ERUDITE.

Secondly, it's not my problem if you cannot understand nuance.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

4/17/20

You lost me at "I can defend Assad".

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